The fact that Marbury is "incredibly unpopular with his teammates" is enough reason to get rid of him. This has been a common problem with Marbury. Regardless if Marbury is here or not, this team is not accomplishing anything next year. Why hold onto to someone for one year, if it means nothing and if he pisses his teammates off?
The NY Times is full of propoganda, when D'Antoni and Walsh come out publicly to state this then its true. Right now thats just a rumor.
Wow so much developments in just 24 hours. Personally, like a few others who have posted earlier in this thread, it wouldn't hurt to have a fresh start or inch towards it by getting rid of Marbury. We've been with him for pretty much 5 season already. I think the feeling-out and the testing stage are already done and over with. The team is well aware of the impact of Marbury. He's a scorer and decent point guard, but he just had too much baggage. Way too much for even Walsh and D'Antoni to forego his last season as a Knick. That tells a lot. No need anymore to have another season. Being a great player is not just about having a great career statistic or carrying a team to the playoffs. You need to lead, make your teammates better, or if someone else is the leader, be a good follower. I think in those 5 seasons, we've already had enough to learn of Marbury. And despite all his talent, the Knicks just needed a breath of fresh air. It's not the last move we have to make no doubt. But as a start, it's a HUGE HUGE move. Let's all just move on. We've had losing seasons all those 5 seasons, with one season getting to the playoffs only to get swept. C'mon guys. You all know this will be a positive move for the Knicks. In terms of winning more games - we don't know for sure. But at least the team had a shakeup we sorely needed. I'm surprised he's leaving even before the season, but when the Knicks brass decided on it, you'd have to admit there's something really bad going on internally with the team.
I just hope we get something valuable like draft picks for Marbury.
As for Duhon, he's only here for 2 years. So let's just leave it at that.
You're failing to understand the basis of what a fresh start.
Starting with a clean slate would BEST start off with getting rid of the two weakest links in the starting 5.
This is the starting 5 right now.
Marbury
Crawford
Richardson
Randolph
Curry
In order of weakness
Richardson(Absolutely useless)
Curry(worst defensive/rebounding center in the NBA, no passion for the game)
Crawford(decent contract, productive but brings a losing attitude on the court with his chucking and piss poor defender)
Randolph(ugly contract, productive)
Marbury(expiring contract, still productive)
Getting rid of the starter with the most value FIRST isn't the right move. It just isn't.
It won't change anything, you guys don't even know what the Knicks culture is.
This team will still have Crawford, Richardson, Randolph, Curry, Rose, James, Jefferies, Collins and Morris.
Nothing will be changed until the top 4 will be gone.
Marbury will be gone next season, no need to let him go now, especially when he's expected to preform at his best since this is his contract year.
"C'mon guys", you sound like a cheerleader now. I don't know what you have against Stephon, probably because he's a superior athlete to Manny Pacquoa, has more swagger and makes more money, but you need to stop cheerleading this Marbury propaganda, it isn't working.
Marbury only been on the Knicks 4 seasons, not 5.
He first season, he only played 47 games. The most recent season doesn't even count since he played about 20 games and was put through hell under Isiah, a man who tried everything in his power to make Marbury look bad.
So, in reality, its 3 and a half seasons.
Marbury's first season was ELITE.
He lead the NBA in assist, so you guys gotta be moron to actually believe he's a "Selfish" player.
He averaged 20 ppg and over 9 assist
The next season he averaged 21 ppg and over 8 assist, still elite numbers you could build around.
After that, everything went down hill.
Isiah traded the future for Curry(Aldridge, Noah, Cap space, other draft picks)
Isiah brought in a coach who didn't fit the team personnel.
Isiah wanted to make Crawford and Curry the main focus on offense.
That lead us to one of the worst records in Knicks franchise history.
Marbury became a spectator PG where Crawford and Curry had most of the touches and made our offense harder to watch than you trying to lose your virginity.
There was a lot of hype and drama that season where Jamal and Eddy were hyped up to be "potential" "alot of upside", when all we saw from them were bad decisions and the worst defense seen in Knicks history.
The avoid blame on them, Isiah and them media directed their attention to Marbury.
Marbury averaged 16 and 6, still excellent numbers; but he was made the scapegoat for taking a back seat for Crawford's and Curry's shot attempts.
Same thing happened the next season.
These are historical facts in the last 4 years; only ignorant people would want to skip over this because it kills their belief, it really does.
And please don't come in here with that garbage about following and leading, you would be the last person to even know anything about winning in sports. Its more than "following" and "leading".
Marbury never had a bad season in New York. He put in sticky situations by people who didn't know what they were doing. Everyone knows this, but want to say Marbury is responsible because he's the scapegoat.
You guys could cry all you want to how I'm "bias" for Marbury, that could be the case; but these facts just favor my side too much.
These anti-Marbury guys are constantly repeating themselves after each other too, I'm disappointed in the lack of creativity really.
clumsy, most people don't deserve 20 mil.
Marbury is an expiring contract. Teams would want that based on the fact he would free up a lot of salary on a team's salary cap.