Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Toronto Raptors 7:30pm 2/22/2016

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Kiyaman

Legend
mafra said:
Grant finally in... Drains a 3 and forces a turnover.
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Grant get to the rim with drives, plus Grant push the ball as if in a SSOL transition.
Isnt that the tempo u want when u are playing a opponent that played the night before?

Our front office head coach ZEN likes to DNP good players .. Grant, O'Quinn, and Serafin.
Players with skills to stay a .500 team all season.
The famous ZEN kept all our bench-players from being in the same lineup each game.
Our bench-players never got a chance to work on a chemistry with the same teammates in a lineup.
WHY Phil?

Grant n Gallo should have started a few games this season, so Calderon n Afflalo get the message by coming off the bench to prove they are a better veteran backcourt tandem than Grant n Gallo.

Fredette is going to take Porzingis wing job ha ha ha ha
 
H

htr10

GM
Even Alan Hahn is saying in the post-game show that you know what Calderon does and does not give you. It's time to look at other players. You can't lose at the point of attack on every single possession. If Rambis/PJ isn't willing to start Galloway or Grant in the next game, then what's the point?
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Dolan vetoed a trade for Lowry... Knicks took Jordan Hill (1 selection later TOR grabs DeRozan with the next pick).

Donnie Walsh still haunting you. As they say in NFL circles, if you don't draft well in the first round... You not only don't have the guy on your roster but then your have to face the guy for ten years.

Not only were NYK so clOse to a Westbrook-Curry backcourt... But, at least they mismanaged their way to the outskirts and just missed having chance to draft them (b/c of 4 extra wins in 2008 and 2009)...

What makes it worse... We had chance to draft DeRozan... And we had trade in place for Lowry.

So, we bungled a Lowry-DeRozan starting backcourt... Nobody would've complained about Melo trade if we had those 2 guys... We would (and should) have 3/5 starters for Eastern Conf this all star game...

Walsh did so much damage to this team... Set us back a decade!!!
 
H

htr10

GM
Kiyaman said:
Grant get to the rim with drives, plus Grant push the ball as if in a SSOL transition.
Isnt that the tempo u want when u are playing a opponent that played the night before?

Our front office head coach ZEN likes to DNP good players .. Grant, O'Quinn, and Serafin.
Players with skills to stay a .500 team all season.
The famous ZEN kept all our bench-players from being in the same lineup each game.
Our bench-players never got a chance to work on a chemistry with the same teammates in a lineup.
WHY Phil?

Grant n Gallo should have started a few games this season, so Calderon n Afflalo get the message by coming off the bench to prove they are a better veteran backcourt tandem than Grant n Gallo.

Fredette is going to take Porzingis wing job ha ha ha ha
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I know you hate Porzingis, but man, what more do you need to see from Fredette? He just showed you in two minutes everything he has to offer. Hit a 3-pointer when left open, get burned on two straight defensive possessions, make a sloppy turnover when dribbling into the frontcourt. We really need to see 9 more days of that?
 
K

Kiyaman

Legend
htr10 said:
Even Alan Hahn is saying in the post-game show that you know what Calderon does and does not give you. It's time to look at other players. You can't lose at the point of attack on every single possession. If Rambis/PJ isn't willing to start Galloway or Grant in the next game, then what's the point?
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Grant n Gallo NEED to be starters the next 2 or 3 games .. especially if the two guards are in our future
We are 2-13 in our last 15 games .. reminder of last season
 
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tiger0330

Legend
htr10 said:
Even Alan Hahn is saying in the post-game show that you know what Calderon does and does not give you. It's time to look at other players. You can't lose at the point of attack on every single possession. If Rambis/PJ isn't willing to start Galloway or Grant in the next game, then what's the point?
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Completely agree, but you're preaching to the choir. The next game the starting PG will be Jose Calderon.
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Kiyaman said:
Grant n Gallo NEED to be starters the next 2 or 3 games .. especially if the two guards are in our future
We are 2-13 in our last 15 games .. reminder of last season
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Amen. Sit Melo for remainder of season - shut him down.

LG and Grant and LT and KP and Lopez. Start these 5.

Jimmer plays next 9 days... Sink or swim. Seraphim and DWIll major minutes. Time to find out who stays next year.
 
K

Kiyaman

Legend
htr10 said:
I know you hate Porzingis, but man, what more do you need to see from Fredette? He just showed you in two minutes everything he has to offer. Hit a 3-pointer when left open, get burned on two straight defensive possessions, make a sloppy turnover when dribbling into the frontcourt. We really need to see 9 more days of that?
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Are u blind? u dont see the same from Porzingis each game?
Dont tell me all u watch is Porzingis scoring, and pay no attention to his misses, or his poor position on defense to be 7.3
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
4 different coaches and 70 teammates and 3 GMs since we made the Melo trade 5 years ago.

Rambis played an aging and aching Melo the entire second half... Down 25 with a few minutes left and Melo still in the game. Wow.
 
B

Broadway

All Star
htr10 said:
Even Alan Hahn is saying in the post-game show that you know what Calderon does and does not give you. It's time to look at other players. You can't lose at the point of attack on every single possession. If Rambis/PJ isn't willing to start Galloway or Grant in the next game, then what's the point?
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tiger0330 said:
Completely agree, but you're preaching to the choir. The next game the starting PG will be Jose Calderon.
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lol

 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Broadway said:
Correction
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Link? Or is that simply your hunch? Maybe I-Thomas had final say. Either way... B/c of Walsh we passed on DeRozan for Hill and bc of somebody else... We passed on Lowry.

All under Dolan's watchful eye...

Like grabbing a handful of water with your fist... Lowry-DeRozan backcourt went from a reality to a figment of our imagination... And haunting us for some time still and for some time to come.

Then again... Before Pj... We didn't even bother to get Lowry from HOU... Especially since we gave them Hill and a 1st round pick for taking Jeffries off our books for 1 year. Walsh!!!!
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Broadway said:





lol

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Wow. Lol. The ego of these HC dweebs. The hubris. And how bad does PJ look bc Fisher and Rambis are his first 2 HC hirings!?! That's like a sick joke on Nyers.

Then again... Fisher is a horny unscrupulous prick and Rambis...

New York Knicks head coach Kurt Rambis deleted his Twitter account on Monday over an alleged hacking, according to The Comeback.

Rambis' account showed that he had favorited some NSFW pornographic photos. The Knicks said in a statement that Rambis' account was hacked.

"Kurt did not like those items on his Twitter page and we worked with Twitter to make sure the situation did not happen again," Knicks VP of Public Relations Jonathan Supranowitz said in a statement, according to the New York Daily News.

Before deleting his account, Rambis had approximately 43,400 followers and his last tweet was from 34 days ago.
 
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Broadway

All Star
mafra said:
Link? Or is that simply your hunch? Maybe I-Thomas had final say. Either way... B/c of Walsh we passed on DeRozan for Hill and bc of somebody else... We passed on Lowry.

All under Dolan's watchful eye...

Like grabbing a handful of water with your fist... Lowry-DeRozan backcourt went from a reality to a figment of our imagination... And haunting us for some time still and for some time to come.

Then again... Before Pj... We didn't even bother to get Lowry from HOU... Especially since we gave them Hill and a 1st round pick for taking Jeffries off our books for 1 year. Walsh!!!!
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No hunch I'm a student of following the operations and functions of a team and looking at current/end results



Here's Phil speaking on Shumpert after trade passed from the Rosen Files. And get this he liked THJR at the time too


Jackson speaking on Shumpert and THJR

"Even though Iman Shumpert was in [former Knicks coach] Mike Woodson's dog house for much of last season, he's one of my favorites because he's simply our best on-ball defender at the 2 position and also against the bigger 1s. Once he learns the intricacies of the offense, Iman will be able to create scoring opportunities for his teammates and, unlike last season, he'll know where his own shots will come from. Iman is an excellent driver but his shooting mechanics are very inconsistent. Sometimes he jumps too high to release his shot and sometimes he doesn't jump high enough. As a result, he never shoots the same shot twice."
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"In most colleges, defense is not really emphasized and the idea is for your player to outscore his opponent. That's why playing defense in the NBA is such a challenge for a young player like Tim Hardaway Jr. He has the aptitude and the desire to be aggressive on defense, and during his rookie season he's gained a certain familiarity with the guys he has to guard, so we expect marked improvement from him in this area. Tim's shooting touch has never been questioned, but he has a tendency to stand around and wait for somebody to kick him the ball so he can launch 3-pointers. Tim also has trouble finishing with his left hand. Like Shane, Tim's summer-league experience gives him a head start on learning the offense, which is a significant advantage. Also, Tim is two inches taller than his listed 6-6, which also enables him to play some small forward. I expect that with his talents and his work ethic,
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sooner rather than later Tim will become an excellent all-around player in this league."
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The trade was Metta/Shumpert or THJR and pick for Lowry and possibly an additional filler asset


An article from Berman where it states Phil is a huge Shumpert fan

http://nypost.com/2014/03/16/shumpert-was-set-to-sit-before-trade-deadline/


Come on use your brain Dolan invited Phil to a party that season in December mos right before deadline about coming aboard. Connect the Dots. A pick was involved in the deal and guess who has yet to budge on including our first available pick to be traded in on deals since his arrival?

ESPN’s Ian Begley reports that Jackson had a “firm rule” at the deadline that he was not going to trade New York’s 2018 first-round pick. It’s unclear how many teams coveted the pick as part of potential deals, but a source told Begley that Jackson stood firm that the Knicks “weren’t dealing it.”
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lol

Face it Phil's fingerprints are all over the results of this train wreck of a team and he could have avoided much of this disaster had he not OVERZENNED!
 
K

Kiyaman

Legend
mafra said:
Link? Or is that simply your hunch? Maybe I-Thomas had final say. Either way... B/c of Walsh we passed on DeRozan for Hill and bc of somebody else... We passed on Lowry.

All under Dolan's watchful eye...

Like grabbing a handful of water with your fist... Lowry-DeRozan backcourt went from a reality to a figment of our imagination... And haunting us for some time still and for some time to come.

Then again... Before Pj... We didn't even bother to get Lowry from HOU... Especially since we gave them Hill and a 1st round pick for taking Jeffries off our books for 1 year. Walsh!!!!
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Jordan Hill's Pacers has a 30 -26 record from team-performance.
Derozan became a winner from having Lowry leadership guide the Raptors roster.
Our front office has been hiring puppet head coaches for several decades ..
Pat Riley Quit because he was going to play who he want to play.
JVG Quit because Ewing wasnt there to let him play who he wanted to play.
Our upstairs front office does all the substitution coaching
Because no common-sense head coach would do some of the stupid-sh our decades of ex-coaches did
 
B

Broadway

All Star
And since I'm getting a chuckle from the ESPN Rosen article check this doosy again from Phil....(face it guys this job is way above his head). I can run this team better than him, seriously


"If Andrea Bargnani's initial season in New York was a disappointment, I believe he'll thrive in the triangle. The 3-point shot is a bit out of his range, but from 20 feet and in, Andrea is a deadly shooter. And those are the kinds of shots that the offense will generate for him. Still, there are two aspects of his offense that he has to work on. Because he only approaches the rim in straight lines, he needs to develop some kind of change-of-direction move with the ball -- perhaps a crossover dribble. Also, he's a finger-roller, not a dunker. Could he have small hands? Or does he just need to be more aggressive?

"Bargnani's defense likewise needs improvement. With his long arms, he can be an effective shot-blocker, but he's usually too reactive on defense. In the past, Andrea has been slow getting back in transition defense, and once there he's been unsure of what his rotation responsibilities have been. And like Amar'e, Andrea has to see which of the frontcourt positions suits him best."
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#ELOHEL
 
K

Kiyaman

Legend
Broadway said:
No hunch I'm a student of following the operations and functions of a team and looking at current/end results



Here's Phil speaking on Shumpert after trade passed from the Rosen Files. And get this he liked THJR at the time too


Jackson speaking on Shumpert and THJR







The trade was Metta/Shumpert or THJR and pick for Lowry and possibly an additional filler asset


An article from Berman where it states Phil is a huge Shumpert fan

http://nypost.com/2014/03/16/shumpert-was-set-to-sit-before-trade-deadline/


Come on use your brain Dolan invited Phil to a party that season in December mos right before deadline about coming aboard. Connect the Dots. A pick was involved in the deal and guess who has yet to budge on including our first available pick to be traded in on deals since his arrival?



lol

Face it Phil's fingerprints are all over the results of this train wreck of a team and he could have avoided much of this disaster had he not OVERZENNED!
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Lowry did not want to play for New York!!!!!
what part of that dont u understand?
Lowry didnt want to play for the Raptors until they threaten to send him to New York.
 
B

Broadway

All Star
He's regurgitating the same stuff he said last yr



Dude is about to crack....we're almost there folks getting what very few of us have always wanted
 
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