Isiah says its our fault

metrocard said:

I still can't get over drafting Frye over Bynum.

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Wazup Metro, glad your back. But stop with the Frye over Bynum, what Phil Jackson and Kareem been instilling in Bynum the last two season it takes the average NBA Bigman to get in 5 years without a personal coach.
The Knicks have TWO Bigmen coaches in Herb Williams and Mark Aquire whom had their hands full with just teaching Eddy Curry the fundamentals, and Jerome James how to stay out of foul trouble and McDonalds.
Curry is to BIG a Project that the Knicks should've left alone in Chicago, so their Bigmen Coaches could've spend more time developing the young players in Ariza, Lee, Frye, Butler, and Balkman.).
The Knicks BIG Frontcourt Problem lies in Curry, James, Q.Richardson, and Jefferies. None of the above players should've became Knicks.
Especially after the trade for Mo Taylor, Malik Rose, and the pick-up of C-Butler.
Getting those players caused Problems in the lockerroom for Frontcourt playingtime amongst teammates.

If you dont think that the Spurs (Kernal) Robinson changed Rookie Duncan entire Bigman game by having him move in with him two weeks after he was drafted by the Spurs. Or Patrick Ewing & Mutombo did not benefit Yao talent & Skillz for NBA, or the Cavs did not surround Lebron James with alot of personal coaches, or the two personal coaches that the Orlando Magic assigned to Howard did not help improve his performance each season than you need to visit some NBA Lockerrooms or College Lockerrooms to see how a good decent coach coordinate certain star players on the team.

Channing Frye athletic performance at the time of the Draft added 100 times more than H.S. Bynum had in his repetoir. Plus at that same time the Knicks had just picked up a walking C-Butler that was showing great performance in Mark Aquire Bigman Gym. Inwhich C-Butler should've stayed on as a three year project in Mark Aquire Bigman Gym to use as a Knick Frontcourt forcer so PF-Frye and PF/SF-Lee could improve on their inside & outside offensive talent alongside of C-Butler (the three players played great DEFENSE together, both coach Aquire & Larry Brown showed that repeatedly).
We as Knick-Fans would have accepted a 23-59 and a 33-49 season much better if we would've gave these young players the majority of playintime because the team would be future young.

Isiah Thomas has LOST his players confidence in him as the President & Coach, so he is trying anything to WIN them back even at the cost of using the Child's Blame-Game "the teacher dont like me" thats why I only passed 6 test out of 20 test given. Spare the ROD spoil the child.

The first 20 Knick Games showed that Isiah, his coaching staff, and his players did nothing this offseason to IMPROVE themselves after the 33-49 season.

The Isiah Thomas philosophy this offseason of adding Zach Randolph & Fred Jones (as the Savior) to this Knick-Team to have a better season than the previous 33-49 season was used wrong (or plain Stupid), because the Knick-Fans wanted outstanding change of improvement from all the Knick players that was on the previous season roster that gave two disgraceful 23-59 and 33-49 performances.

Knick-Fans Main Focus is on "Marbury, Crawford, Q.Richardson, and Curry" having the same exact performance as the 23-59 and 33-49 seasons.
And President Head Coach Isiah Thomas and his coaching staff has did nothing to improve or remove these Four Players disgraceful performance.
After 20 Games with a 6-14 record the Knick-Fans has a "RIGHT" to speak their mind and show their emotional attitude as season supporters of this organization. Especially when you have a seat at the BIG BOARD MEETING in MSG, and on the big Chart is Knicks vs Mavs Live 23 point deficit.

The only thing that bothers me about the "BOO-ing" in the Garden is the individual booing, if you want the Players to play as a TEAM than BOO the Entire TEAM, and its organization.

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Kiyaman said:

Wazup Metro, glad your back. But stop with the Frye over Bynum, what Phil Jackson and Kareem been instilling in Bynum the last two season it takes the average NBA Bigman to get in 5 years without a personal coach.
The Knicks have TWO Bigmen coaches in Herb Williams and Mark Aquire whom had their hands full with just teaching Eddy Curry the fundamentals, and Jerome James how to stay out of foul trouble and McDonalds.
Curry is to BIG a Project that the Knicks should've left alone in Chicago, so their Bigmen Coaches could've spend more time developing the young players in Ariza, Lee, Frye, Butler, and Balkman.).
The Knicks BIG Frontcourt Problem lies in Curry, James, Q.Richardson, and Jefferies. None of the above players should've became Knicks.
Especially after the trade for Mo Taylor, Malik Rose, and the pick-up of C-Butler.
Getting those players caused Problems in the lockerroom for Frontcourt playingtime amongst teammates.

If you dont think that the Spurs (Kernal) Robinson changed Rookie Duncan entire Bigman game by having him move in with him two weeks after he was drafted by the Spurs. Or Patrick Ewing & Mutombo did not benefit Yao talent & Skillz for NBA, or the Cavs did not surround Lebron James with alot of personal coaches, or the two personal coaches that the Orlando Magic assigned to Howard did not help improve his performance each season than you need to visit some NBA Lockerrooms or College Lockerrooms to see how a good decent coach coordinate certain star players on the team.

Channing Frye athletic performance at the time of the Draft added 100 times more than H.S. Bynum had in his repetoir. Plus at that same time the Knicks had just picked up a walking C-Butler that was showing great performance in Mark Aquire Bigman Gym. Inwhich C-Butler should've stayed on as a three year project in Mark Aquire Bigman Gym to use as a Knick Frontcourt forcer so PF-Frye and PF/SF-Lee could improve on their inside & outside offensive talent alongside of C-Butler (the three players played great DEFENSE together, both coach Aquire & Larry Brown showed that repeatedly).
We as Knick-Fans would have accepted a 23-59 and a 33-49 season much better if we would've gave these young players the majority of playintime because the team would be future young.

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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/The-Andrew-Bynum-workout-196/
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jordan-Classic-Recap-158/
http://www.draftexpress.com/dedaily.php?p=329


We passed up on a franchise player for a medicore college senior.
Frye was as bad defensively as Curry, and was a poor rebounder. When Frye's shot wasn't falling he was useless on the court. You can't develop Frye, this isn't college anymore, its the NBA. Frye is what he is and is what he was in college, a soft big man. This is the main reason why Frye hit the wall his rookie season; he was never that good to begin with and went back to reality.


I don't care if its a 3 year wait, or a 5 year wait, the time is worth it to have a big man like Bynum on your team, with his size, athleticism, skill level and overall ability at a player, especially a 17 year with matured basketball moves, it was a really bad move by Isiah and a move we will regret when Bynum becomes a 20 and 10 player. Bynum isn't your average NBA big man, not average NBA draft prospect, we missed out and invested everything in Curry who's so limited, nonathletic, and unmotivated to change his inefficient game.

We could also bring Granger in this who's rising up to stardom for Indiana; especially when SF is our weakest position right now.

TJ. said:

The pressure is starting to get to him, but he is fractionally correct though. New York fans are usually the harshest fans out of any other franchise in the NBA. Trying to perform to such high expectations isn't easy, but the team should actually perform, not just give up out there. I can understand why Knicks fans are so vocal, but they just need some paitence and hope. It's not going to happen over night.

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It doesn't make sense to me that it's difficult to play in New York. I always thought that as long as the players give 110% effort, the fans will always support them.

metrocard said:

I still can't get over drafting Frye over Bynum.

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That's why I think Isiah's drafting skills are overrated. I really like Bynum. I think he's going to be a good player.

Kiyaman said:

The Knicks have TWO Bigmen coaches in Herb Williams and Mark Aquire whom had their hands full with just teaching Eddy Curry the fundamentals, and Jerome James how to stay out of foul trouble and McDonalds.
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incorrect... jerome gets his burger fix at BURGER-KING....

sigh




outrageous ticket prices

an rediculous soap opera-like atmosphere off the court

majority of the players give little-no effort (Lee and Balkman not included in that of course.)

and did i mention OUTRAGEOUS TICKET PRICES

yet despite all that the garden still either sells out or dam near sells out, and WE r the problem?

Fans Fault?

Isiah is just trying to spread the blame that falls squarely on his shoulders. you could say that it's partially the players and the players have to play for the coach, but he's the GM also, if a player isn't performing, get rid of him. So it's isiahs fault.
That article in the post goes on to say how, he says indiana's and North Carolina's fans are supportive. Well if he likes them so much go coach there!

Its not the first time Isiah takes a shot at us.

Thomas takes shot at Garden crowd's basketball IQ

BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Isiah Thomas cautioned reporters yesterday not to turn the Knicks' season into a battle of wills between the embattled head coach and the team's disgruntled fan base. But it may be too late.

The fans already have started chanting "Fire Thomas," and Thomas didn't help himself after practice yesterday when he said that Wednesday's crowd at Madison Square Garden had the wrong take on the Knicks' 113-102 loss to Washington.

"I can't expect them to understand the game the way I understand it or see it the way we see it," Thomas said. "It's better that the punishment is given to myself than to the players. The players got to think and move free and perform. We had a good day today."

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