Any Concerns about Amar'e's lack of rebounding and defense?

metrocard

Legend
Amare is a career 9 rebound per 36 minute guy...how is that bad?? He's not Dwight Howard, but he's a B level rebounder...stop crying.

His career high in blocks is 10...he has potential to be a great help defender and has to body to defend the post....he has all the tools, so no I don't have any concern. I think he can be an average defender for us, and much better than Lee.
 

shaolin

Benchwarmer
He is an average rebounder at best and a HORRIBLE defensive player.

Metro, his rebounding average is misleading. He is a great offensive player, but he does have some holes in his game. I believe his lack of defense is from lack of energy. For instance, he does not force his opponent to battle for post position, allowing his opponent to get the ball a few feet from the rim making it a lot easier to score. He is a better help defensive player. I have been invited to Suns games since my friend works for the Suns front office. It's funny when the coaching staff would say something like "who's man is that," knowing full-well that Amare screwed up. And Amare would say "What happened to the help defense?" LOL! He doesn't even widen his stance and tends to be a bit flat footed on defense at times. The scouting report that my friend told me about Amare is spot on. But when he is on the offensive side of the court, all of a sudden the effort is there. He is actually a very good offensive rebounder. Funny how he just needs effort and some improvements. In other words, he could be a lot better. He should be a top 10 player and he should be easily better than Bosh, IMHO. How does this guy go for 30 and 18, and then go for 17 and 3. It's beyond me.

Is it a concern? To me, it is. Am I happy we picked up Amare? Absolutely!
 

shaolin

Benchwarmer
...He IS better than Bosh

Amar'e is a BEAST in the post and in the paint

Bosh is a WUSS in the paint and will get eaten alive

I agree, Bosh is on the weak side. I see Bosh more like a hybrid 3/4 than a pure 4. Amare is a hybrid 4/5, but is better suited at the 4-spot.

I can't wait to see Amare crap all over Bosh. If Amare can be more consistent rebounder, he will be at a level Bosh couldn't attain.
 

DaTPRiNCE

The Knicks are Back
im not concerned his defense isnt the worst but he's not the best he's better then he gets credit for. He blocks shots almost 2 a game. and he could very easily average 10 rebounds its not unheard of, nor would i be surprised if he did. Amar'e was the best big on the market and we got him dudes 27 he could still become a better defender. im happy going to war with him upfront he's the best 4 in the L possibly even the best big man in the NBA.

so to answer the question no im not im actually at ease
 

KingCharles34

All Star
I agree, Bosh is on the weak side. I see Bosh more like a hybrid 3/4 than a pure 4. Amare is a hybrid 4/5, but is better suited at the 4-spot.

I can't wait to see Amare crap all over Bosh. If Amare can be more consistent rebounder, he will be at a level Bosh couldn't attain.
c/s....Amare is definitely the harder player to stop and is a more versatile player offensively. Amare bangs down low, Bosh is terry cloth...that means hes very soft
 

abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
Amare Stoudemire is actually a very good rebounder.

9 rebounds per game is well above average, for a 6-9 power forward.

Stoudemire is not a good man to man defender, but he can still block shots.

In fact, Stoudemire has averaged over a block per game in each of his first
8 NBA seasons.

David Lee's career high blocks is .5 per game.

The Knicks have the talent to make the playoffs, and they have the chemistry.

But the one man that has held this team back and will continue to hold this team back is Mike D'Antoni.

I'm still staying positive, though, because I'm confident that Walsh or Dolan will fire D'Antoni, once he fails for the third straight season. And once he gets removed, the Knicks will start winning. All the Knicks need is a defensive minded coach that talks to their players like adults and doesn't try to humiliate them in public.

A Stoudemire, Felton, and Randolph trio is definitely enough to make the playoffs, with the right coach. Gallinari is a good 3 point specialist, and Chandler is a multi-dimensional 3rd option. Bill Walker is a very athletic role player, and Azubuike can really shoot the 3.
 

DaTPRiNCE

The Knicks are Back
Amare Stoudemire is actually a very good rebounder.

9 rebounds per game is well above average, for a 6-9 power forward.

Stoudemire is not a good man to man defender, but he can still block shots.

In fact, Stoudemire has averaged over a block per game in each of his first
8 NBA seasons.

David Lee's career high blocks is .5 per game.

The Knicks have the talent to make the playoffs, and they have the chemistry.

But the one man that has held this team back and will continue to hold this team back is Mike D'Antoni.

I'm still staying positive, though, because I'm confident that Walsh or Dolan will fire D'Antoni, once he fails for the third straight season. And once he gets removed, the Knicks will start winning. All the Knicks need is a defensive minded coach that talks to their players like adults and doesn't try to humiliate them in public.

A Stoudemire, Felton, and Randolph trio is definitely enough to make the playoffs, with the right coach. Gallinari is a good 3 point specialist, and Chandler is a multi-dimensional 3rd option. Bill Walker is a very athletic role player, and Azubuike can really shoot the 3.

i agree bro, basically what i been saying about the dude. he's better defensively and rebounding wise then he gets credit for
 
He had knee surgery a year ago. He seems fine now but I think it was mainly an act because he was in his FA year. Now that he?s a Knick I suspect he will be sitting on the side lines with ice packs over his knees trying to re-play D?Antoni system (too much running) Plus, the Garden is going to put more pressure on him and his weekend knees like it did all the others that came here with the same condition.

When or if he goes down, they have no one with the experience to pick up the slack or team. If you think the Knicks have problems now, all hell is going to break loose when this happens. So it should be in their best interest to prepare for it by getting more experience to lead in his absence. I know we have a whole lot of trade bait, so make the moves before it is too late.
 

stuntmanmike

Benchwarmer
what has to be mentioned here is a.s. is now in the east... he isn't going to be able to run up and down the floor unmolested like with the suns... in the east any given game you are in the house with the beast. and he and randolph better be ready or we are going to be doling out alot of money to guys sitting on the beach in street clothes. the 7th game of the championship this year was a sluggfest eastern style and had perkins played for the celts there could have been a different out come... does anyone think the knicks as is right now are even close to being in the same league as those teams?
 
what has to be mentioned here is a.s. is now in the east... he isn't going to be able to run up and down the floor unmolested like with the suns... in the east any given game you are in the house with the beast. and he and randolph better be ready or we are going to be doling out alot of money to guys sitting on the beach in street clothes. the 7th game of the championship this year was a sluggfest eastern style and had perkins played for the celts there could have been a different out come... does anyone think the knicks as is right now are even close to being in the same league as those teams?

exactly, this is showtime city, and the pressure will be there, but, no one can be sure Amare will be in NY form. its a wait and see 4sure.
 
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