Some say "what would Jesus do"? I Say...
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Issue is....
We are a weak defensive team. And very good offensive team.
All coaching aside. This is what we are as constructed by Walsh and who plays basketball for the NYK.
So at the end of games, close games, when you say you want MDA to to "defensive' and such,
Sure, he can go big(ger) and defensive,
But the overall potency of our team will suffer, due to the glaring and inherent lopsided talent of our team,
Which resides with offense. In a tight game especially, you stick with your bread and butter -- which tonight got burned,
Mainly bc two superstar 25+pt players played like sloppy dogshit.
Ce la ****ing vie.
I can't prove, but you can expect, us to still lose, albeit in different style, if MDA altered his rotations, per the defensive mania many crave.
And, based off my above, it'd reason we'd lose more.
Ehemm....
All coaching aside? We are a weak defensive team?
One DOES have to do with the other, correct?
I would like you to look at things from an exaggerated perspective for a second... just a sec...
IF we had "THE BEST DEFENSIVE COACH POSSIBLE, maybe a Thib's or whoever...
Are you telling me we would STILL be a weak defensive team, with the same exact roster? Be honest. Just take a sec (not that Im saying we need to fire or get rid of or blame MDA for ANYTHING) j
ust to partly asses our team, coach included...
if that were the case... sure you could infer we may not score the same etc, etc... some stats might not be the same, namely increased stats that facilitated trades (I understand), but really do you think we would look how we do? Get beat HOW WE Do?
Imagine how intense and no frills that type of coach would probably be. Imagine how a player could impress THIS type of coach and what said player would have to show in practice and even when scouted for this type of coach.
Do you see it? How the whole team attitude and approach would change, how our reputation would change? The types of players going forward we would covet and who would LOVE to play here?
When I do, I see a MUCH different picture (and Im not even talking championship).
What would a Phil Jackson, Popovich, or a proven top tier coach do?
If you are honest, only one logical conclusion can be assumed...
a better coach will get better results. Period. How exactly, using what combinations exactly is up for speculation.
But a better coach, should bring better results, regardless of who's to blame for a specific loss.
+1
Keep classing these threads up broheem. :thumbsup:
Lotta foos jumping ship of late.
An observation, a negative assessment, hardly equates to "jumping ship"
Except for being subjective, nothing is proven by standing by, blindly rooting for a team with obvious deficiencies, even the untrained eye can recognize.
NO. You go defensive, get the stop, get the rebound, call time out and put the scorers in. In games like this its done 99.9999999% of the time. I didnt invent this philosophy. I've seen it done a million times. Similar to putting your best foul shot shooters in the game at the end when you know the other team has to foul.
This isnt rocket science...
Strategy...
a term too technical for debate on KOL. Coach MDA will always be ASSUMED to know more and be more qualified than anyone here...
don't waste your time.
But notice,
YOUR strategy entails using defense
AS WELL AS properly inserting the optimal mix given the specific situation, to maximize and shift to a more desirable outcome.
MANY parts of coaches strategies are scrutinized.
Bottom line...
he's 26 - 25 in the playoffs for his career. Mediocre.
I'll ask you...
What would a top tier coach do? What would be different? Do you think we would still be clamoring for 2 years worth of talent or would we be competitive and be able to do the small things and NOT beat ourselves?
I know your answer.
Lmao @ people talking like the world is over & the Knicks could fall out of the playoff picture... Not gonna happen.
MDA haters may pray for that to happen, but sorry guys; it's not gonna happen.
The Knicks are playing .500 since the Melo trade with a record of 6-2 against winning teams. Charlotte would pretty much have to win every game from here on out with the Knicks winning no more than 3 or 4 games.
Sorry guys, but it's not about to happen. Not when Charlotte is currently 12 games below of .500
I'm NOT a MDA hater nor (after a valid assessment) am I a supporter. I'm a Knick fan.
You can't find any post of mine that says I hope we miss the playoffs to get rid of coach. It's hypocrisy.
That said I offer this...
Wins and Losses are inevitable.
HOW A TEAM WINS OR LOSES is indicative of many many many factors.
When considering...
Playing here is different, more pressure
Playing in NY and the East (and hoping to go far in the playoffs) MEANS defense
The media is crazy
Ups are way ups, downs are the lowest, its day to day fickleness...
You get a fan base and media outlet that will continually put you under the microscope, poke and prod, and by shear demand, will, and virtue, will
make sure they get what they want- and most certainly tell you exactly how they feel. And at this point
EVERYONE (or the majority) question COACH, doubt COACH, and See COACH lacks defensive influence... (helloooooo!)
UNTIL that changes it will never stop. Not in a place like this. It seems like "the sky is falling", but when considering the specific circumstance including this city and its fans... this is the pre-cursor to change demanded, resulting from expectations and disappointment.
It's just another piece of evidence that MDA is not the right coach for this team. We've lost 5 games now (more???) against subpar teams. We lost to the friggin Pistons... they are so bad it makes my brain hurt. Perhaps some of the members of this board will start believing that a coach who doesn't coach defense can't win a championship and actually admit that us "D'Antoni Haters" were right all along. Offense only is not a suitable way to becoming a championship.
MDA needs a specific team to coach. He needs specific players. He has never had that team in NY... Well he had that type of team before the trade, but he's just not equipped to deal with any style other than his own.
And, the worst part is that the basketball players are picking up bad habits and starting not to care. You can see it in their collective attitude.
Just plain bad situation.
We have two amazing players in Amar'e and Melo. D'Antoni can't pull more wins out? Really???? I saw that same tired pick and roll defense time and time again, and we got burned on it time and time again...
Just horrible. It makes me sick.
Stephen A. just said
"at some point or another, people will start questioning if D'Antoni is right for this team"?
I like that line "right for this team"
because it's no insult, we understand this stage isn't for everyone (see my sig, and think LeBron)
it takes projection, forethought, and consideration of MANY not so obvious factors.
AND now after this experiment, after all you know about our history, this city and it's fans, and the game, the answer is NO.
Does that mean "he's to blame"? Nope
Does it mean "he's not a good coach"? Nope
Does' it mean "things can't be different with a Top Defensive Center"? Nope
It means given the circumstance, given the locale and geographic location, given the reputation;
MIKE D'ANTONI HAS YET TO PROVE HE IS CAPABLE OF GETTING THE MOST OUT OF
THIS TEAM ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, AND ACTUALLY DIMINISHES A PLAYER'S DEFENSIVE ABILITIES BY VIRTUE OF HIS APPROACH AND SYSTEM. HE TOO IS UNDERPERFORMING BASED ON THE REPUTATION THAT PRECEDED HIM, BUT THEN AGAIN AS IS, HE IS A .500 COACH IN THE PLAYOFFS, NEVER WAS KNOWN FOR DEFENSE, UNPROVEN, AND RELEASED AFTER 60 WIN SEASONS.
and we are .500...
go figure.
TO ISAY, RON FARINA, ETC...
I can't wait for the day we can upgrade at the HEAD COACH position. Hopefully, if he is top tier, proven to increase a teams overall defense, and is capable and competitive offensively... if he's thick skinned, tells it like it is, takes no shorts, willing to take on the challenge and project a confidence in this squad...
I can't wait. I would love for him to show you what we could actually be with that type of LEADER and GENERAL. MDA has peaked! Unless he's willing to go back to the drawing board, we have seen what we can be, we've scored 120 plus points, we've beat top teams, but yet we are lowest in defense, rebounds, inconsistent, in constant flux, and embarrassing. We can beat anyone and be beat by anyone, and we lack pride.
I know your saying he doesn't exist, but even if you considered this type of coach and concluded if it were possible you'd be down, then you mind as well say...
YOU SUPPORT MDA BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW ANYONE BETTER THAT'S AVAILABLE!:thumbsup: