NYCLakerfan
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The Knicks and Celtics have the all around deepest teams to me the question is can each teams stars get it done. Chemistry and consistency with the Knicks star players and age for the Celtics.
Great Thread Topic .. the undervalue of Knicks teams
The comunication level of Knicks players as a same-page team has drop tremendously low each season after the 1998 offseason trade of Oakley/Starks.
Our poor coaching-staff had alot to do with the poor relationship of Knicks players being on the same-page for over a decade.
Oakley were our top-strong frontcourt leadership player on the court, and in the lockerroom.
This 2012-13 season our best top frontcourt leadership player goes to "Kurt Thomas" experience in keeping his team on the same-page on the court, on the bench, and in the lockerroom.
John Starks were our top-strong backcourt leadership player on the court, and in the lockerroom.
This 2012-13 season our best top backcourt leadership player goes to "Jason Kidd" veteran experience in keeping his team on the same-page on the court, on the bench, and in the Lockerroom.
We have put together a serious optimistic Knicks roster together of Star-Players in the 2012 offseason to win the Atlantic Division Championship, however our best team-complimentary-players on the roster lies in "Player-Coach Jason Kidd and Kurt Thomas" being accepted by coaching-staff & players as the Knicks # 1 leadership players.
The Knicks past decade of seasons consisted of a divided-lockerroom of players that didnt accept certain teammates performance, which lead to all the players trying to be the team scoring "savior" with individual-plays.
All the high five shoulder jumping looked good for team morality after a good Knicks play, but the team high-shoulder bumps never came close to weigh above all the teams poor-performances on offense/defense.
All the experience veteran players added to the Knicks roster in the offseason are a reward to headcoach Mike Woodson difficult job at getting two $100M contract EGO-players to co-exist as a teammates. The two players are two damn SELFISH to be anyteams leadership-player....which give reason to undervalue a decent Knicks roster.
u dont have to be a genious or a rocket-scientist to know Carmelo Anthony did not accept (Big-Shot) Chuancey Billups strong leadership role taking control over the Denver Nuggets players, nor did Carmelo accept the young D.Leaguer Lin-Sanity super-star role as the Knicks floor leader being accepted by all Knicks teammates, plus being accepted by NBA fans worldwide for providing a team-leadership on the Knicks that Melo & Amare could not provide.
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The Knicks and Celtics have the all around deepest teams to me the question is can each teams stars get it done. Chemistry and consistency with the Knicks star players and age for the Celtics.
Great Thread Topic .. the undervalue of Knicks teams
The comunication level of Knicks players as a same-page team has drop tremendously low each season after the 1998 offseason trade of Oakley/Starks.
Our poor coaching-staff had alot to do with the poor relationship of Knicks players being on the same-page for over a decade.
Oakley were our top-strong frontcourt leadership player on the court, and in the lockerroom.
This 2012-13 season our best top frontcourt leadership player goes to "Kurt Thomas" experience in keeping his team on the same-page on the court, on the bench, and in the lockerroom.
John Starks were our top-strong backcourt leadership player on the court, and in the lockerroom.
This 2012-13 season our best top backcourt leadership player goes to "Jason Kidd" veteran experience in keeping his team on the same-page on the court, on the bench, and in the Lockerroom.
We have put together a serious optimistic Knicks roster together of Star-Players in the 2012 offseason to win the Atlantic Division Championship, however our best team-complimentary-players on the roster lies in "Player-Coach Jason Kidd and Kurt Thomas" being accepted by coaching-staff & players as the Knicks # 1 leadership players.
The Knicks past decade of seasons consisted of a divided-lockerroom of players that didnt accept certain teammates performance, which lead to all the players trying to be the team scoring "savior" with individual-plays.
All the high five shoulder jumping looked good for team morality after a good Knicks play, but the team high-shoulder bumps never came close to weigh above all the teams poor-performances on offense/defense.
All the experience veteran players added to the Knicks roster in the offseason are a reward to headcoach Mike Woodson difficult job at getting two $100M contract EGO-players to co-exist as a teammates. The two players are two damn SELFISH to be anyteams leadership-player....which give reason to undervalue a decent Knicks roster.
u dont have to be a genious or a rocket-scientist to know Carmelo Anthony did not accept (Big-Shot) Chuancey Billups strong leadership role taking control over the Denver Nuggets players, nor did Carmelo accept the young D.Leaguer Lin-Sanity super-star role as the Knicks floor leader being accepted by all Knicks teammates, plus being accepted by NBA fans worldwide for providing a team-leadership on the Knicks that Melo & Amare could not provide.
Great post Zeke!
Very objective, though I think you're being a little hard on this roster.
Melo and Amare had a season to struggle and get to know one another. I think there's a good chance those hard times will pay dividends re chemistry.
Felton while a question mark has anwered some of hi scritics by getting himself in what looks to be at worst decent shape. He should round (no pun intended) in to form by season's start. He is also partly responsible for one of Amare's best years. It'll be good for Amare to have him back.
And while I think Kidd and Camby are old/limited in what they can do, they both have enough left in the tank to really help us.
Idk.. we've got size, good guard play, two prolific scorers and (barring Amare and Novak) solid defenders at multiple positions.
My biggest question mark, and anyone can feel free to challenge me on this, is Woodson.
He too me is just not a v good coach.
MDA while flawed fundamentally was plain and simple a flat out better coach IMO.
Woodson's unimaginative offense and questionable decision making leave me somewhat weary of his performance going into this season.
He has a lot to prove. He's really done nothing in the league since he's been coaching.
:gony:You had me till you got to the bolded portion. Coach Woody is superior in every facet of coaching to our last "coach". He's more balanced, seems like he's handling ego's better, actually calls plays & uses timeouts wisely, preaches defense, & the most important he hold players accountable. D'Antoni was an epic FAIL in all the things listed. Woody's record after Pringles was ousted speaks for itself. Woody is definitely a fit for this team, & the players respond to him.
You had me till you got to the bolded portion. Coach Woody is superior in every facet of coaching to our last "coach". He's more balanced, seems like he's handling ego's better, actually calls plays & uses timeouts wisely, preaches defense, & the most important he hold players accountable. D'Antoni was an epic FAIL in all the things listed. Woody's record after Pringles was ousted speaks for itself. Woody is definitely a fit for this team, & the players respond to him.
You had me till you got to the bolded portion. Coach Woody is superior in every facet of coaching to our last "coach". He's more balanced, seems like he's handling ego's better, actually calls plays & uses timeouts wisely, preaches defense, & the most important he hold players accountable. D'Antoni was an epic FAIL in all the things listed. Woody's record after Pringles was ousted speaks for itself. Woody is definitely a fit for this team, & the players respond to him.