Look the coach is supposed to be your "locker room presence", I think that the whole notion of locker room presence is overrated! Before signing Miller did Portland have one?...No they were a group of very talented young playes who were made the playoffs.
Not to mention at what age or years in the league does a player earn that title, because Lee,Nate and Hughes (10 year vet,former All Star,NBA All defensive team, and NBA Finals particpent) should all fit that bill.
I agree teams need leadership, but, you dont just bring in players for that reason alone. They need to be productive and aside from Kidd none of these oldtimers fits that bill.
Also we had probably the best "locker room presence" in the league the past few years in Stephon Marbaury.....just kidding.....Malik Rose and our locker room was still full of turmoil and our record still sucked.
Bottom line, bring in players for talent....not to mention Jerry Stackhouse and Jamal Tinsley havent exactly been known to be great teamates.
You have to look in a stack of hay to find the needle. Just because Kidd and Hill are a bit older, does not mean they are washed up. Grant Hill and Jason kidd both played 82 games last season. Hill averaged 12 pts and 4 rebs. Now you may ask whats so speacial about his numbers? well, he is a SG that shot over 50% in his last 3 seasons, he's an 80+% ft shooter...plays good defense, and has a high BBall IQ. I think it would be foolish to not give hill at least a look or a work out. Jason Kidd is an 8 time all star that can mentor tony douglas, kidd averaged 9 pts, 9 assists and 6 rebounds last season. again, completely foolish to not look into kidd if you need an upgrade at pg and a mentor. White Chocolate JWill is also anothe rplayer to at least give a look into. Even tho he retired last year for 'personal reasons' he had an injury riddled 2007-2008 season and still managed 11 pts and 6 azssists. He had a year off to work on his game, he didnt retire because of injury and walsh loved his workout. and hes only 32. once again, veteran leadership and a good player. Keep searching Donnie
Also, the players you are calling old and washed up are the same age as Kobe Bryant
I reiterate.
Kidd
Hill
Stackhouse
Sessions
Tinsley
Williams
Best players available
Donnie is doing his job by looking into these players, regardless of age, productivity, veteran leadership, blah blah blah. Tinsley is not a veteran leader, but Donnie has to entertain the thought because at a cheap price tag he will improve our pg position regardless of what any of you think, tinsley has posted more starting minutes and playoff minutes than any player on our team accept hughes.
Bottom line is these are the players we can get
WE were never going to get
andre miller, Turkoglu, or paul milsap.
So its not that Donnie is saying lets go for kidd hes a veteran
he was saying lets try and go for kidd or hill because damn it
they are the only players we can get for that might actually play here for cheap and help.
You guys are so short sighted in your frustration, you should be happy that Donnie is roaching out every last nook and cranny of the NBA to find immediate veteran talent for cheap to bolster our roster. You dont see the Raptors, or Bucks, Or Clippers, Or Thunder, or any other losing perennial lottery team courting cheap offensive talent or cheap veteran pg help...Except the knicks.
We are playing with house money on all that is left
look
The Best free agents left are ours for the picking
LEE
NATE
SESSIONS
TINSLEY
WILLIAMS
STACKHOUSE
no other teams are being mentioned except the clippers and sessions.
Donnie
your doing a fine smart patient veteran experienced job
thank you.
Not to mention, why are we giving the likes of Stackhouse, and Tinsley shots, but are totally against the notion of adding A.I.?
Lets start with the common ground here....I think we both share an equal respect for Donnie Walsh and his patience in rebuilding us, we all know a lack of patience by our previous GM is how we got to where we were/are.
But the interest in these players look to be moves for the sake of making a move. Look if there is no way to realistically upgrade our roster, cool, we all understand that Donnie inherited a big mess so his hands are indeed tied.
To me adding players like a Tinsley or Stackhouse, would make our team look like the team Larry Brown coached, a bunch of misfits and role players, only difference is the contracts will be expiring.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4379230
No Disrespect to Jerry Stackhouse, but we are really starting to look desperate with some of the players we are working out! Not to mention, do we really need him?
Sound The Frik Off!
how r we making a move to make a move when we havent made a move all summer ? flawed statement.
misfits noooo
Duhon
hughes
Gallo
chandler
Lee
Role players yes but not misfits, they all fit their position.
To compare it to the team larry brown coached is unfair
MArbury with Francis With Crawford With Q rich With Curry
With Channing Frye, With Nate, With JAlen Rose, WIth Qyntel Woods, With maurice Taylor, With Malik Rose, With Jackie Butler, With Jerome James, With Ime Udoka, WIth malik Rose now that team is a freaking bunch of misplace misfits with no roles.
IDe take
Duhon
Hughes
chandler
Harrington
Lee
R1) Nate
R2) Gallo
R3) Hill
R4) Curry
Over
Marbury
Francis
Crawford
Frye
Butler
Woods
Qrich
Jerome JAmes
Rose
anyyyyyy dayyyy.
larry hughes is a veteran,Al harrington is veteran too,the knicks don't need to jerry stackhouse.
Due Diligence Motherf*ckers... get use to it!
oy.the great wall of kentucky is ill.good god almighty.**** you Isaiah.LOL, so why not call up Steve Francis and see what sort of shape he is then!? Latrell needs the money lets work him out too!
Due Diligence making a bid for Rubio, T-Mac or Boozer when we realistically do not have the peices to get it done.
Working out Jerry Stackhouse is just thirsty
Speaking of Jerry Stackhouse
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basket...Jerry-Stackhouse-in-a-bad-ba?urn=ncaab,181837
He'd fit right in!
Nice to see my Wildcats back to relevance in the colleg hoops world, now when The Knicks turn things around, it would be just like the 90's all over again!