Jerry Stackhouse?!: This is just getting pathetic!
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The coach shouldn't have to police the locker room. It's the players jobs to police themselves. Portland has all high-character guys, even though they're young, there wasn't going to be any trouble in the locker room. But IMO, they could have used a veteran presence in the playoffs. They looked nervous.
It's not just how long you've been in the league, it's also your personality. Lee has only been in the league a couple years. Nate is the one that's causing trouble half the time (see: water fight with Z-Bo, constant bitching). Hughes might be able to fill that role a little, but he doesn't seem to have the right personality for that type of thing.
I dunno, Hill has played well for the Suns. Jason Williams could back up Duhon if we don't get Sessions, and was said to look great in his workout. We don't really have a true SG besides Hughes, so Stackhouse fits that mold assuming he can still play. The guys Donnie has talked to would also have a role on the team basketball wise.
No matter what presence you have in the locker room, if you have Isiah as your coach, there's going to be turmoil.
New New York
Quiet Storm
I said old and washed up, not old/washed up. Difference being is I know age does not neccesarily signify being washed up, I think Nash is the same age as Hill and Kidd, and older than both Tinsley and J Williams, but is there any question if Nash could bring more to The Knicks than all of these players? No.
Here is why going after Hill is dumb (besides the age factor). You posted some ok stats for him, but failed to mention that he would now being playing in front of either Wilson or Danillo. As it is The Knicks are arleady going to have Wilson playing out of position if we start Danillo, adding Hill on compounds that problem, now plus that to the fact that his numbers are on a decline, then going after him makes very little sense, especially from a cap standpoint.
I will say it again and again, I really have a ton of respect for Donnie Walsh, I like the moves he has made thus far, but, auditioning players these players looks a little desperate.
Not to mention, why are we giving the likes of Stackhouse, and Tinsley shots, but are totally against the notion of adding A.I.?
New New York
Quiet Storm
Lets start with the common ground here....I think we both share an equal respect for Donnie Walsh and his patience in rebuilding us, we all know a lack of patience by our previous GM is how we got to where we were/are.
But the interest in these players look to be moves for the sake of making a move. Look if there is no way to realistically upgrade our roster, cool, we all understand that Donnie inherited a big mess so his hands are indeed tied.
To me adding players like a Tinsley or Stackhouse, would make our team look like the team Larry Brown coached, a bunch of misfits and role players, only difference is the contracts will be expiring.
nyk_nyk
All Star
I think AI reminds Donnie a little too much of Steph and he definitely doesn't want to cross that media firestorm again.
The Knicks are very thin at SG right now. Even though Hughes and probably Chandler will be filling those spots, I don't think Dantoni is high on Hughes and would prefer to play Chandler at his natural position.
I don't have a problem with JS coming off the bench. Prior to last season (injuries) he was a valuable asset for DAL. Personally, I think he's good for at least 10 pts a night plus he gets to the FT line.
DontForgetDerekHarper
Starter
how r we making a move to make a move when we havent made a move all summer ? flawed statement.
misfits noooo
Duhon
hughes
Gallo
chandler
Lee
Role players yes but not misfits, they all fit their position.
To compare it to the team larry brown coached is unfair
MArbury with Francis With Crawford With Q rich With Curry
With Channing Frye, With Nate, With JAlen Rose, WIth Qyntel Woods, With maurice Taylor, With Malik Rose, With Jackie Butler, With Jerome James, With Ime Udoka, WIth malik Rose now that team is a freaking bunch of misplace misfits with no roles.
IDe take
Duhon
Hughes
chandler
Harrington
Lee
R1) Nate
R2) Gallo
R3) Hill
R4) Curry
Over
Marbury
Francis
Crawford
Frye
Butler
Woods
Qrich
Jerome JAmes
Rose
anyyyyyy dayyyy.
King Ewing
Banned
You're soooo right, this is almost as bad as Jason Kidd, but that would have been much worse actually
What the heck is going on here?
New New York
Quiet Storm
What I said wasnt a flawed statement at all, I never said that Donnie has made moves for the sake of making moves, I said adding one of these players would be making a move for the sake of making a move.
Now I think you took me too literally on the Brown comparison, the Brown team comparison was in regard to the uncertain roles players will have on the team.
Aside from Duhon (by default) and Wilson, there are no real sure shot starters on this team, nor rotation just like under Larry Brown.
Millic,Hill,Hughes,Jefferies all have a realistic shot at starting or being constant DNP canidates. Being that The Knicks want to showcase Curry, Lee's starting job could be in question too if Mike Dantoni wants to play Danillo or Harrington at the four.
Now dont you think it would only make things a little more complicated to throw in a player like Jerry Stackouse, who complained all last season about not playing?
Great Coach,Young core of players, full of potential and question marks.
So that is where the Larry Brown Knick comparison comes from. No we dont have the egos and attitudes, but certainley the bloated roster.
Thanks.
P.S. I know Donnie inherited this roster, so I am not blaming him, I again am just questioning the idea of brining in yet another player to take up space who is not an upgrade over what we already have (Kidd being the only exception to that statement)
donchris
Next season, keep waiting
Good point but Hughes and Harrington are not leaders. Maybe Harrington can be groomed for leadership, but that is really up to DanO and Walsh. Are leaders born or bread? There will be no significant moves this off season until Walsh is ready to give players a serious contract. No one wants to be a one year mercenary.
the portable man
Benchwarmer
lol @ gettin hyped over sessions when he did OK @ best on a shitty team without redd and bogut most of the season
N8 is STILL a better option at this point than anyone on team or the market
N8 is STILL a better option at this point than anyone on team or the market
New New York
Quiet Storm
LOL, so why not call up Steve Francis and see what sort of shape he is then!? Latrell needs the money lets work him out too!
Due Diligence making a bid for Rubio, T-Mac or Boozer when we realistically do not have the peices to get it done.
Working out Jerry Stackhouse is just thirsty
Speaking of Jerry Stackhouse
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basket...Jerry-Stackhouse-in-a-bad-ba?urn=ncaab,181837
He'd fit right in!
Nice to see my Wildcats back to relevance in the colleg hoops world, now when The Knicks turn things around, it would be just like the 90's all over again!
King Ewing
Banned
Knicks fans are without a doubt the stupidest fans in sports. Its really sad considering I am one, but I have never in my life seen so many people jump on board for these foolish, bs signings. Unbelievable....where are your brains at?
portega1968
El Cacique
dang, Stackhouse really got served by John Wall.. cant wait to see this kid in the NBA (maybe he'll be in for a Knick workout in say.... like 20 years!!!)
ANU
Starter
oy.the great wall of kentucky is ill.good god almighty.**** you Isaiah.