The Official Sergio Rodriguez Thread

[TheSkaBoss]

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I'm really excited about the enthusiasm that you have with sergio. Piensas lo mismo, verdad compi?

 

[Paul1355]

I Sergio going to be the Knicks starter anytime soon? He is a thousand times better than Duhon....i'm sorry but Duhon has to be benched for the rest of the season.

Duhon is not coming back next year, Sergio is better in all categories, and Douglas has been wasted and has not developed due to his lack of playing time.

Is Sergio going to start against the Bucks?

 

[tiger0330]

Spanish ballers don't belong in Portland or Sacramento, they belong in NYC. You don't ship a beautiful flower to the Arctic, they wilt and die. Sergio will shine in NYC. Love the speed he brings to the court, Duhon works at bicycle speed, this kid works at jet speed. D'Antoni needs to put away the Duhonophobia and recognize that his SSOL is made for Sergio and start this kid tonight.

I saw Duhon on Saturday and he was rooting for the team but he had this ambivalent look on his face like this kid is going to take my job and I might not be here next year.

 

[clumsy]

Whatever Duhon should be happy he was in the NBA this long. He's a fraud....I can't see him being a good player at any professional league...he'll just be a fundamental untalented mediocre player.

Rodriguez would be the perfect PG for us if he improves his vision more (it's pretty good now).

 

[Another Spanish newbie]

<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" images="" smilies="" icon_surprised.gif="" border="0" alt="" title="Surprised" smilieid="2" class="inlineimg"></o:smarttagtype>Hi all, another Spaniard here to contribute the discussion.<o>
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Sergio is not the poor man's Steve Nash, unfortunately. He's more like the Grizzlies Jason Williams, perhaps worse shooter but better running the offense. Hope D'Antoni will develop him in to a competent run&gun PM, but there's only one Nash. Anyway, he fits perfect on this year's Knicks game plan- not a great shooter and mediocre defender, as Duhon, but fast, creative, great penetrator, and showtime oriented- but not the PM for a LeBron James-based team. King James needs shooting guards as Mo Williams or Boobie Gibson, and Rodr?guez is not.
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By the way, I have been revising Sergio’s game-by-game log at basketball-reference.com and this is my analysis on his contribution depending on his play time:

When playing more than 20 mins<o></o>
40 GS; 24 MP 8.5 P; 2.3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="5.9 a" w:st="on">5.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1 S; 2.1 TO; FG% .455; 3P% .386; FT% .717<o></o>
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When playing more than 25 mins:<o></o>
11 GS; 29 MP 10 P; 3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="6.9 A" w:st="on">6.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.6 S; 2.4 TO; FG% .454; 3P% .433; FT% .600<o></o>
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When playing more than 30 mins:<o></o>
6 GS; 33 MP 13.5 P; 4 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="7 A" w:st="on">7 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.8 S; 3.1 TO; FG% .478; 3P% .500; FT% .636<o></o>
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It’s amazing how PT affects his shooting average. I think we talk about confidence here…<o></o>

At least, NY fans, you sure enjoy this games until the end of season. You probably will not make the playoff, this team can't defend my grand mummy's bridge team, but you will have a bunch of crazy no-looking passes, alley ups... and some stupid TO's too, I'm afraid.<o></o>
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Good luck! (and sorry for my poor English)<o></o>

 

[TR1LL10N]

I Sergio going to be the Knicks starter anytime soon? He is a thousand times better than Duhon....i'm sorry but Duhon has to be benched for the rest of the season.

Duhon is not coming back next year, Sergio is better in all categories, and Douglas has been wasted and has not developed due to his lack of playing time.

Is Sergio going to start against the Bucks?

I think he is starting tonight.

 

[p0nder]

<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" images="" smilies="" icon_surprised.gif="" border="0" alt="" title="Surprised" smilieid="2" class="inlineimg"></o:smarttagtype>Hi all, another Spaniard here to contribute the discussion.<o>
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Sergio is not the poor man's Steve Nash, unfortunately. He's more like the Grizzlies Jason Williams, perhaps worse shooter but better running the offense. Hope D'Antoni will develop him in to a competent run&gun PM, but there's only one Nash. Anyway, he fits perfect on this year's Knicks game plan- not a great shooter and mediocre defender, as Duhon, but fast, creative, great penetrator, and showtime oriented- but not the PM for a LeBron James-based team. King James needs shooting guards as Mo Williams or Boobie Gibson, and Rodr?guez is not.
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By the way, I have been revising Sergio?s game-by-game log at basketball-reference.com and this is my analysis on his contribution depending on his play time:

When playing more than 20 mins<o></o>
40 GS; 24 MP 8.5 P; 2.3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="5.9 a" w:st="on">5.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1 S; 2.1 TO; FG% .455; 3P% .386; FT% .717<o></o>
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When playing more than 25 mins:<o></o>
11 GS; 29 MP 10 P; 3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="6.9 A" w:st="on">6.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.6 S; 2.4 TO; FG% .454; 3P% .433; FT% .600<o></o>
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When playing more than 30 mins:<o></o>
6 GS; 33 MP 13.5 P; 4 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="7 A" w:st="on">7 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.8 S; 3.1 TO; FG% .478; 3P% .500; FT% .636<o></o>
<o></o>
It?s amazing how PT affects his shooting average. I think we talk about confidence here?<o></o>

At least, NY fans, you sure enjoy this games until the end of season. You probably will not make the playoff, this team can't defend my grand mummy's bridge team, but you will have a bunch of crazy no-looking passes, alley ups... and some stupid TO's too, I'm afraid.<o></o>
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Good luck! (and sorry for my poor English)<o></o>

I could live with Sergio as a 14pts, 4 reb, 7 assist starter (and 50% from 3pt range???). The rest of this season should really be about developing the talent we have now. We just acquired some really talented guards via trades. If they can develop and learn the system they could be a good core of players for the Lebron's and Bosh's.

Sergio has to really work on his numbers from the line. A guy that drives to the hoop like that will get fouled a lot once he's playing at a high level. Those FT's are essential to winning games. A guard should be 80% at least.... I know he's not a shooter but that is just once facet of his game that could use some real hard work. I hope he addresses that problem area. Otherwise I see a very young, very talented player with a relatively high ceiling.

 

[bayejorl]

but not the PM for a LeBron James-based team. King James needs shooting guards as Mo Williams or Boobie Gibson, and Rodr?guez is not.

I don't agree. I think that kind of one-man oriented offense who either goes to the rim or passes to a open man is very predictable. It works pretty well with LeBron James because he is a ****ing beast, but he hasn't win a ring yet playing with that system, and I doubt he does, whatever their record in the regular season is. Not to talk about similar one-man offenses with less talented guys as Blazers with Roy...or the Tyreke Evans' Kings since the kid was scouted by opposite teams. At the end these systems are only good to make MVPs and highligt them, but not to win PO games.

I think if you have a PG as Sergio who can penetrate, get doubled, and make spaces that LeBron can squeeze, you are by far more effective. For sure, with a different system LeBron won't be putting up the amazing assist numbers he is making this year, but he will score at will. More than now.

 

[VeryGundy]

I think if you have a PG as Sergio who can penetrate, get doubled, and make spaces that LeBron can squeeze, you are by far more effective. For sure, with a different system LeBron won't be putting up the amazing assist numbers he is making this year, but he will score at will. More than now.

Unfortunately LeBron's game depends on him having the ball in hand. That's why it is easy to stop the Cavs because their game plan is very predictable.

LeBron will not defer to someone like Sergio. He may if the PG is CP3.

 

[tiger0330]

<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" images="" smilies="" icon_surprised.gif="" border="0" alt="" title="Surprised" smilieid="2" class="inlineimg"></o:smarttagtype>Hi all, another Spaniard here to contribute the discussion.<o>
</o><o></o>
Sergio is not the poor man's Steve Nash, unfortunately. He's more like the Grizzlies Jason Williams, perhaps worse shooter but better running the offense. Hope D'Antoni will develop him in to a competent run&gun PM, but there's only one Nash. Anyway, he fits perfect on this year's Knicks game plan- not a great shooter and mediocre defender, as Duhon, but fast, creative, great penetrator, and showtime oriented- but not the PM for a LeBron James-based team. King James needs shooting guards as Mo Williams or Boobie Gibson, and Rodr?guez is not.
<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
By the way, I have been revising Sergio?s game-by-game log at basketball-reference.com and this is my analysis on his contribution depending on his play time:

When playing more than 20 mins<o></o>
40 GS; 24 MP 8.5 P; 2.3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="5.9 a" w:st="on">5.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1 S; 2.1 TO; FG% .455; 3P% .386; FT% .717<o></o>
<o></o>
When playing more than 25 mins:<o></o>
11 GS; 29 MP 10 P; 3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="6.9 A" w:st="on">6.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.6 S; 2.4 TO; FG% .454; 3P% .433; FT% .600<o></o>
<o></o>
When playing more than 30 mins:<o></o>
6 GS; 33 MP 13.5 P; 4 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="7 A" w:st="on">7 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.8 S; 3.1 TO; FG% .478; 3P% .500; FT% .636<o></o>
<o></o>
It?s amazing how PT affects his shooting average. I think we talk about confidence here?<o></o>

At least, NY fans, you sure enjoy this games until the end of season. You probably will not make the playoff, this team can't defend my grand mummy's bridge team, but you will have a bunch of crazy no-looking passes, alley ups... and some stupid TO's too, I'm afraid.<o></o>
<o></o>
Good luck! (and sorry for my poor English)<o></o>

Welcome to Knicks Online and your English is very good. Your report on Sergio is right on, that's how he played Saturday. Didn't have a great shooting night, had a few TOs along with some nice assists. It's a terrific opportunity for Sergio here in NY, in Sacramento he was playing behind Evans and could never beat him out for the PG job. Here in NY, the starting PG position is all but being given to him, Duhon will probably not be here next year and Eddie House is more of a combo guard. I am excited having him on the team because he makes things happen.

 

[bayejorl]

Unfortunately LeBron's game depends on him having the ball in hand. That's why it is easy to stop the Cavs because their game plan is very predictable.

LeBron will not defer to someone like Sergio. He may if the PG is CP3.

That's why I think LeBron will never make a legacy unless he learns to play off the ball (wich doesn't mean he has to play off the ball all the time, only being useful off the ball). Being the one that open spaces and at the same time being the one who finish it's only good for making atonishing numbers, but not for win PO series. Maybe he wins a ring, doubtly two, but no more.

 

[p0nder]

Unfortunately LeBron's game depends on him having the ball in hand. That's why it is easy to stop the Cavs because their game plan is very predictable.

LeBron will not defer to someone like Sergio. He may if the PG is CP3.

LeBron's game isn't really dependent on anything. The guy can literally do it all. If he has a good, ball handling, pass first PG (nash, sergio) why wouldn't he let them outlet the ball to him in the wing where he can slash and get those amazing drives and dunks going, especially in the (modified) SSOL system?

Still, I'd be happy if we signed LeBron and played him at the PG spot. It really wouldn't matter, as lebron is going to get his touches and highlights regardless.

:gony:

 

[nyk_nyk]

Amazing first performance. As he develops and learns the players and system he's only going to get better. What a great find for a PG.

I was really worried about our guard situation going into the trade deadline but this is better then I could of hoped! I see him drive the lane and kick it out very well. He can also run an adequate pick and roll. His comments about wanting to find Gallo more make me really hopeful, as duhon flat out ignored him.

These trades make the Knicks relevant again and i think the player that will go a little under the radar is Sergio. He was a huge upgrade for us.

Wouldn't quite go that far. He's a definite upgrade over Duhon but I still don't think he's starter quality. I liked the way he created opportunities for everyone and drove to the basket frequently though. He didn't shoot well so I'll need to see him play more to see if he has a reliable jumper. Basically he's a good replacement for what we had but I still think more work needs to be done at that position for us. I think a low salary player like Sebastian Telfair would have been a great fit for now.

Rodriguez has game but I think Duhon is so bad that we're forced to celebrate an average/mediocre player in his place.​

 

[LookingAround]

<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" images="" smilies="" icon_surprised.gif="" border="0" alt="" title="Surprised" smilieid="2" class="inlineimg"></o:smarttagtype>Hi all, another Spaniard here to contribute the discussion.<o>
</o><o></o>
Sergio is not the poor man's Steve Nash, unfortunately. He's more like the Grizzlies Jason Williams, perhaps worse shooter but better running the offense. Hope D'Antoni will develop him in to a competent run&gun PM, but there's only one Nash. Anyway, he fits perfect on this year's Knicks game plan- not a great shooter and mediocre defender, as Duhon, but fast, creative, great penetrator, and showtime oriented- but not the PM for a LeBron James-based team. King James needs shooting guards as Mo Williams or Boobie Gibson, and Rodr?guez is not.
<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
By the way, I have been revising Sergio?s game-by-game log at basketball-reference.com and this is my analysis on his contribution depending on his play time:

When playing more than 20 mins<o></o>
40 GS; 24 MP 8.5 P; 2.3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="5.9 a" w:st="on">5.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1 S; 2.1 TO; FG% .455; 3P% .386; FT% .717<o></o>
<o></o>
When playing more than 25 mins:<o></o>
11 GS; 29 MP 10 P; 3 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="6.9 A" w:st="on">6.9 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.6 S; 2.4 TO; FG% .454; 3P% .433; FT% .600<o></o>
<o></o>
When playing more than 30 mins:<o></o>
6 GS; 33 MP 13.5 P; 4 R; <st1:metricconverter productid="7 A" w:st="on">7 A</st1:metricconverter>; 1.8 S; 3.1 TO; FG% .478; 3P% .500; FT% .636<o></o>
<o></o>
It?s amazing how PT affects his shooting average. I think we talk about confidence here?<o></o>

At least, NY fans, you sure enjoy this games until the end of season. You probably will not make the playoff, this team can't defend my grand mummy's bridge team, but you will have a bunch of crazy no-looking passes, alley ups... and some stupid TO's too, I'm afraid.<o></o>
<o></o>
Good luck! (and sorry for my poor English)<o></o>

Well, we should establish Sergio's fans group as before at the Kings forum.

I never analyzed the numbers but it's something I also paid attention also that when he got confidence he shot better.

But the numbers themselves don't prove the theory because you can say that he plays more when he hits shots.

I just remember that when Steve Black was out because of injury, Sergio played well and had good percentages and also this year there was a period when he played well and shot with percentages.

Anyway, I prefer not to build expectations because players which are hyped eventually criticized and hated the most when things don't go well.

 

[jpz17]

Wouldn't quite go that far. He's a definite upgrade over Duhon but I still don't think he's starter quality. I liked the way he created opportunities for everyone and drove to the basket frequently though. He didn't shoot well so I'll need to see him play more to see if he has a reliable jumper. Basically he's a good replacement for what we had but I still think more work needs to be done at that position for us. I think a low salary player like Sebastian Telfair would have been a great fit for now.

Rodriguez has game but I think Duhon is so bad that we're forced to celebrate an average/mediocre player in his place.​

MSG would be praising you if he saw this post

 

[KingCharles34]

As great as StarTelfairbury is i think we need a center to give Lee and Harrington some help

*edit*

We might be able to put Telfair at center, similar to what the Lakers once did with Tragic Johnson...just a thought. I can see him puttin on heroic performances

 

[VeryGundy]

LeBron's game isn't really dependent on anything. The guy can literally do it all. If he has a good, ball handling, pass first PG (nash, sergio) why wouldn't he let them outlet the ball to him in the wing where he can slash and get those amazing drives and dunks going, especially in the (modified) SSOL system?

Still, I'd be happy if we signed LeBron and played him at the PG spot. It really wouldn't matter, as lebron is going to get his touches and highlights regardless.

I'd be ecstatic if we get LeBron. He would put New York back on the map.

I was merely pointing out the obvious. LeBron is most effective when he has the ball. Since he has never played with a great PG before, we'll never know how he would fare.

BTW, I would not put Sergio in Nash's class just yet.

 

[tiger0330]

Wouldn't quite go that far. He's a definite upgrade over Duhon but I still don't think he's starter quality. I liked the way he created opportunities for everyone and drove to the basket frequently though. He didn't shoot well so I'll need to see him play more to see if he has a reliable jumper. Basically he's a good replacement for what we had but I still think more work needs to be done at that position for us. I think a low salary player like Sebastian Telfair would have been a great fit for now.

Rodriguez has game but I think Duhon is so bad that we're forced to celebrate an average/mediocre player in his place.​

I agree but you can't argue he makes things happen pushing the ball up like he does, always going to the basket in attack mode. Long term, he's got to develop a better outside shot otherwise guys will lay off of him and take away his dribble penetration and he's got to become a better FT shooter for when he gets fouled driving to the basket. For now an average PG replacing a useless PG means you don't have to play 4 on 5 and the Knicks are better.

 

[JujuXG]

I'm really impress with his game tonight, he defense is great and his drive n pass is really good too. Feel bad for duhon.

 

[petescud]

I like Sergio, but so far i see him as a good backup, which was his last job also. He's young so there's hope that maybe he could start and be very productive, even against the elite teams. But for now he's another teams backup. On the flip though, i think he'd be one of the better back ups