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mafra
Aug 04, 2010, 07:32
Word around the camp fire is starting to spread, and it's looking good for Knick fans!

Sure, we could be in the "getting-used" scenario yet again; but for some reason I think 3rd time is the charm. We missed on luring a tier-b/c free agent in '09; we failed to land 2 max free agents this Summer.

BUT, it looks like the plan might fall into place after all!

Forget what Al Harrington might do this year to talk Melo out of coming to play for D'ant.... It just seems like everything is falling in line.

It's almost as if the only thing that could keep Melo in DEN is coach Karl. What's his health and future like?

Knicks also have a younger roster, with more attractive pieces going fwd (Gallo-Randolph-Chandler); they have another max player (Stoudemire), and they have a solid complimentary player (STAT); and they have the edge in environment/lifestyle (NYC > DEN).

We know the story.... But, we all worried Melo would sign the extension. He hasn't and it looks like he wont.

Let's not get involved in all the "let's trade for Melo" talk. Unless we get away with Chandler-Curry package, then forget it. Play out the year. Curry's deal comes off the books. We sign Melo to the max.

Felton-Gallo-Randolph-Melo-STAT makes for a bright future!

melo's wife wants NYC, he's from the East coast, we have STAT and potential.... This is getting interesting.
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FROM ROTOWORLD:

"Carmelo Anthony is not expected to sign an extension with the Nuggets this summer, a source tells Hoopsworld's Alex Kennedy.

The Nuggets were hoping that Melo would sign a three-year, $65 million extension before this season. But for now, it looks like he's going to test the market next season, tossing concerns about a potential lockout to the side. There have already been rumors that Amare Stoudemire is trying to organize his own "Big 3" in New York, made up of himself, Anthony and Tony Parker."
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Sources close to the situation don't expect Carmelo Anthony to sign an extension with the Denver Nuggets this summer. about 15 hours ago (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/20252370224) via web http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/1056470539/twitter_bigger.jpg (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)
AlexKennedyNBA (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)
Alex Kennedy
http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/20252370224
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FROM theknicksblog.com:

Melo Won’t Sign Extension? (http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/08/03/melo-wont-sign-extension/)

By Tommy Dee on Aug 03, 2010, 6:36 pm



Alex Kennedy@AlexKennedyNBA (Kennedy@AlexKennedyNBA): Sources say that Carmelo isn't too worried about next season's potential lockout and he wants to explore his options next summer.




@AlexKennedyNBA (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA): Anthony is leaning towards testing free agency next offseason, said sources on the same day that the Nuggets let go of Warkentien, Chapman.





To me the key has always been would Melo sign. Reports like this make more sense seeing that other reports had Melo “on the verge” (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5318846)but the fact is he’s yet to sign.

We know he loves New York. We know that the Nuggets are in flux. I also know that Melo has a great relationship with George Karl.

Many people have talked about the Melo situation. I’ve been told, and this is something Brandon Tierney has talked about (http://brandontierney.wordpress.com/), that if there’s no extension signed the Nuggs may choose to start shopping him before the season. But like we’ve talked about (http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/07/30/tkb-tv-paul-melo-and-dantonis-rotation/), it makes sense for Denver to play out the year to see what happens. I know that many fans want to focus on the current roster, even to the point of getting mad at me for posting things about Melo or Paul, but the simple fact is the Knicks have wanted 2 superstars since day one.

Make no mistake, they are still very much focused on acquiring another.
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Phew!

http://cdn.concreteloop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/08_la-la-vazquez_03.jpg

Melo's new bride - MTV personality LaLa Vazquez. Methinks she would prefer Manhattan to Denver? Call me crazy!~

argentum
Aug 04, 2010, 09:26
Melo has a lot of time to ponder where he should play next season. His extension offer is valid till the 1st July 2011. And then there is a looming lockout.

moneyg
Aug 04, 2010, 09:52
if melo doesnt sign an extension.. denver will trade him before the deadline.. if he is traded to a good team. he might resign with them ..if he is traded to a bad team...which denver might do to piss him off.... were in business.. so good new for us...lets stand pat...

metrocard
Aug 04, 2010, 10:05
Gallo > Carmelo


We need a PG/SG upgrade.

DG8
AS1
AR4

is our frontcourt...lets mess that up.

MSGhobo247
Aug 04, 2010, 10:47
Gallo > Carmelo


We need a PG/SG upgrade.

DG8
AS1
AR4

is our frontcourt...lets mess that up.

If Chandler was able to play SG in the system then why can't Melo? Melo will be able to get his shot anywhere and still get his 8 rbs a game.

I agree Gallo with much hard work can be better but Melo >>>> Chandler (or whoever our SG is this season) and there's ur upgrade.

moneyg
Aug 04, 2010, 10:58
Gallo > Carmelo


We need a PG/SG upgrade.

DG8
AS1
AR4

is our frontcourt...lets mess that up.

GALLO BETTER THAN MELO.... what the f....
r u insane..lmao...

im assuming u think gallo is going to be a max player in free agency...:smokin:

shaolin
Aug 04, 2010, 11:26
Gallo > Carmelo



WHAT!! Melo is a top 10, actually he is top 6/7 talent. He can play the 2, 3, 4 position, and he might be the best pure scorer in the league. He is definitely a top 3 "pure" scorer at the very least.

Real NY Baller
Aug 04, 2010, 11:30
^^Every AWAKE person knows that's a statement only a dreamer can see. LOL

I wouldn't be suprised if Mello goes to Brooklyn in the next 2 years, I heard this was one of his choices if he decided to stayed for another 2 years in Denver. But who really knows...other than him?

On another note...IMO, I think he can do a lot better then LuLu Vazquez and her saggy milk duds.

shaolin
Aug 04, 2010, 11:31
if melo doesnt sign an extension.. denver will trade him before the deadline.. if he is traded to a good team. he might resign with them ..if he is traded to a bad team...which denver might do to piss him off.... were in business.. so good new for us...lets stand pat...

There is still some time. I would have been shocked if Melo signed the extension this earlier given that the Nuggets management said the offer is good until June 30, 2011. Why would he rush his decision if he is in the drivers seat?


Let's see what happens by the trade deadline. But I think you have a good point

jimkcchief88
Aug 04, 2010, 11:35
Gallo > Carmelo


We need a PG/SG upgrade.

DG8
AS1
AR4

is our frontcourt...lets mess that up.

R U Freakin' kidding me???? METROTARD STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!

shaolin
Aug 04, 2010, 11:47
R U Freakin' kidding me???? METROTARD STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!

I am still amazed at that claim.

Here is my top 10
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1. Kobe
2. LBJ<O:p</O:p
3. Wade
4. Durant<O:p</O:p
5. CP3 (when healthy, if not, he falls dramatically)<O:p</O:p
6. Melo<O:p</O:p
7. D. Williams<O:p</O:p
8. Howard<O:p</O:p
9. Dirk<O:p</O:p
10. Nash<O:p</O:p
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Honorable Mention: Gasol, Amare, Duncan, Bosh, I am sure I am forgetting someone who probably should be ranked ahead of the last 4 guys mentioned.<O:p</O:p
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I don't see Gallo's name here. LOL! Actually, I would be surprised if Gallo makes the top 40.<O:p</O:p
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Gallo can be a top 25 player some day, but I don't see him cracking the top 15 ever.<O:p</O:p

KnicksWillRiseAgain
Aug 04, 2010, 12:10
........

PG: Felton
SG: Melo
SF: Gallo
PF: STAT
C: Turiaf

gmpknick
Aug 04, 2010, 13:07
I don't know about MELO,?

but I know I'm gettin an extension lookin at LaLa!..:peace:

TheBigCock
Aug 04, 2010, 15:23
2011-2012 Dream Line Up
PG: Felton
SG: Melo
SF: Gallinari
PF: Amar'e
C: Mosgov

StEpHoN_mArBuRy
Aug 04, 2010, 16:40
We're ****ing weak at C. ****a Guard or Forward.

bboycustom92
Aug 04, 2010, 17:14
Melo can play the 2...

Ray Felton
Melo
Gallo
Randolph
Amare.

keyser soze
Aug 04, 2010, 18:13
Gallo > Carmelo.


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DieHardPassion
Aug 04, 2010, 20:24
Well at least now we have a chance. It enhances our opportunities to get Paul and Melo knowing that they're not committed to their teams. IF we do get the 3 monsters Knicks has to keep Gallo, Randolph, Walker, Douglas and maybe Chandler in the mix. These guys are our valuable assets to surround the 3 monsters. GL Knicks and to all!

metrocard
Aug 04, 2010, 23:43
Carmelo is Glen Robinson 2.0.

Pedro De Pacas
Aug 05, 2010, 01:45
Just wondering bout contract extension: if Melo gets traded to NY before the deadline, would we be able to extend his contract? Or couldn't it happen before next offseason?

keyser soze
Aug 05, 2010, 06:42
Carmelo is Glen Robinson 2.0.


1) Glenn Robinson averaged 20.7 ppg for his career . . . Not too shabby. In his prime, he was a terrific player.


2) Glenn Robinson's career high for ppg in a season was 23.7 ppg in the 97-98 season. Carmelo has only played 7 seasons and has surpassed that total FIVE TIMES ALREADY (26.5 ppg in 05-06, 28.9 ppg in 06-07, 25.7 ppg in 07-08, 28.2 ppg in 08-09, 24.7 ppg in 09-10) and he's ONLY 26. He probably hasn't even had his best season yet. (Wing players usually have their prime years between the ages of 28-32)

(oh and they both have identical FG% for their careers)


Come on now.

ronoranina
Aug 05, 2010, 07:23
Carmelo is Glen Robinson 2.0.

Metro, I generally am interested in and agree w your point of view, but I think you've been lead astray w regards to your assessments of Melo.

Although I don't think he makes players around him that much better (his b-ball IQ is a touch overrated), his ability to score is just off the charts ridiculous. Comparing him to Glenn Robinson is like comparing a Porche 911 to a Ford Mustang. Melo is a great player. He's like Karl Malone but in a small forward's build. He makes scoring on NBA level players look easy.

He would be a great addition to the Knicks and I'd love to have him. He'd be more like Benard King 2.0.

metrocard
Aug 05, 2010, 08:14
Carmelo is Glen Robinson with a little more scoring and turnovers...

Robinson took his team further in the playoffs than Carmelo tho...so they're not that different.

Carmelo has a bad attitude and bad character...he's no good for this team.
Gallinari possesses the ability to hold down the SF spot for 15+ years.
Carmelo is better overall, but our SF position is not broken. I'm not going to give up Gallinari's progression and ability to be great in New York for another LeBron personality player.

Carmelo hasn't played a full NBA season since his rookie season...he's not all that and we don't NEED HIM.


Paul in the other hand is a different story.

jimkcchief88
Aug 05, 2010, 09:27
Carmelo is Glen Robinson with a little more scoring and turnovers...

Robinson took his team further in the playoffs than Carmelo tho...so they're not that different.

Carmelo has a bad attitude and bad character...he's no good for this team.
Gallinari possesses the ability to hold down the SF spot for 15+ years.
Carmelo is better overall, but our SF position is not broken. I'm not going to give up Gallinari's progression and ability to be great in New York for another LeBron personality player.

Carmelo hasn't played a full NBA season since his rookie season...he's not all that and we don't NEED HIM.


Paul in the other hand is a different story.

NKO must stand for KNOW KNOTHING ORDER because other than the last sentence, this post is LAUGHABLE. Keep putting this dumb **** in black and white METROTARD. Along with Starbury and Rubio, this goes down on the METROTARD NOT TOP TEN!!! ON CHIEF!!!

Real NY Baller
Aug 05, 2010, 09:28
Until Gallo shows his SO CALLED POTENTIAL, he should not be mentioned in the same breath as Pierce, Lebron and Mello.

It amazes me how people can see this guys future as if they are looking thru a crystal ball. He really hasn't proven nothing other than having a streaky jump shot, flat feet, and letting players drive past him for dunks and layups. At least some players turn their heads or back before getting posterized.

I know people have their reasons for wanting him to be a true force in the NBA, and I know his age may give him that opportunity. But, as of right now, he is just another average player. People his age or younger came into the league and showed more promise and probably didn't/don't get as much fan fair as the shallow Gallo. I just don't see it...and i'm almost positive he will be the same way this year when all the fresh meat comes in competing for his inherited spot that family friend D'Antonio's so kindly gave him. I can hardly wait to see how much he's work on his game compare to the other teammates he MIGHT be playing along side with.

metrocard
Aug 05, 2010, 11:47
NKO must stand for KNOW KNOTHING ORDER because other than the last sentence, this post is LAUGHABLE. Keep putting this dumb **** in black and white METROTARD. Along with Starbury and Rubio, this goes down on the METROTARD NOT TOP TEN!!! ON CHIEF!!!

Did anyone understand what Jimmy is trying to say here?


Until Gallo shows his SO CALLED POTENTIAL, he should not be mentioned in the same breath as Pierce, Lebron and Mello.

It amazes me how people can see this guys future as if they are looking thru a crystal ball. He really hasn't proven nothing other than having a streaky jump shot, flat feet, and letting players drive past him for dunks and layups. At least some players turn their heads or back before getting posterized.

I know people have their reasons for wanting him to be a true force in the NBA, and I know his age may give him that opportunity. But, as of right now, he is just another average player. People his age or younger came into the league and showed more promise and probably didn't/don't get as much fan fair as the shallow Gallo. I just don't see it...and i'm almost positive he will be the same way this year when all the fresh meat comes in competing for his inherited spot that family friend D'Antonio's so kindly gave him. I can hardly wait to see how much he's work on his game compare to the other teammates he MIGHT be playing along side with.


Galllo has proven himself so your post is void.

Real NY Baller
Aug 05, 2010, 13:12
^^Yes, he has proven himself to be exactly what I wrote (prove me wrong with some footage). So maybe you are right about me posting something that was already known.

keyser soze
Aug 05, 2010, 13:33
Robinson took his team further in the playoffs than Carmelo tho...so they're not that different.
.

uhm . . . what?

Glenn Robinson played with a young Ray Allen and took the Bucks to the Eastern Conference Finals one season.
Carmelo Anthony played with Chauncy Billups and took the Nuggets to the Western Conference Finals one season.
Can you please provide the other members of this forum with your definition of the word "further"??? lol

edit: I hope you aren't thinking of 2005 when he won a championship with the Spurs as a ride-along roleplayer.

jimkcchief88
Aug 05, 2010, 13:34
Did anyone understand what Jimmy is trying to say here?




Galllo has proven himself so your post is void.

Break out your Spanish-English dictionary so you can figure it out, or I can paypal you a dollar so you can buy a CLUE!!!!!

SSj4Wingzero
Aug 05, 2010, 13:59
If Carmelo can play the 2, this team will be one of the best ever come 2012 and some really lucky FA signings.

PG - CP3
SG - Carmelo
SF - Gallo
PF - Amar'e
C - Randolph

Can you just IMAGINE that team?

Ewing
Aug 05, 2010, 15:39
Just don't get too carried away with these news about Melo and CP3, we all know that we might not get them.

ronoranina
Aug 05, 2010, 18:07
Carmelo is Glen Robinson with a little more scoring and turnovers...

Robinson took his team further in the playoffs than Carmelo tho...so they're not that different.

Carmelo has a bad attitude and bad character...he's no good for this team.
Gallinari possesses the ability to hold down the SF spot for 15+ years.
Carmelo is better overall, but our SF position is not broken. I'm not going to give up Gallinari's progression and ability to be great in New York for another LeBron personality player.

Carmelo hasn't played a full NBA season since his rookie season...he's not all that and we don't NEED HIM.


Paul in the other hand is a different story.


I can agree w you about needing Paul more. In the NBA, PG > SF.

Seeing as we already have Gallo, who I like alot, I would definitely rather have CP3. But you and others could prolly already guess that..

Melo is a great player, but as I've said he doesn't make players around him better. Paul raises the level of the players around him. He's a juggernaut and a facilitator for others.

Paul1355
Aug 05, 2010, 20:04
Unless Denver maeks a big move and gets a good player, I see Melo getting tickets to the first jet out of Denver.

He wants NY like Amare wanted NY.

I see Melo in a Knicks uniform and see him with Gallo and Amare tearing it up.

I'm assuming that Douglas, Chandler, Walker/Azabuke plus Curry's contract get traded for Melo

Possible lineup after Melo trade?:

Felton
Azabuke/Mason
Anthony
Amare
Turiaf

Bench:
Randolph
Gallo
Fields
Mason

That is a GOOD team.

Maybe Melo would start at SG with Gallo at SF which would make us a very tall team but I don't know if Melo is fast enough to be a SG. Who knows but either way we are as good even better than the Magic.

XxWinKnicksxX
Aug 05, 2010, 20:24
I can agree w you about needing Paul more. In the NBA, PG > SF.

Seeing as we already have Gallo, who I like alot, I would definitely rather have CP3. But you and others could prolly already guess that..

Melo is a great player, but as I've said he doesn't make players around him better. Paul raises the level of the players around him. He's a juggernaut and a facilitator for others.

Who is Carmelo suppose to make better?

K martin
Jr smith
Chris anderson

That team sucks. They play like retards!!

keyser soze
Aug 05, 2010, 20:35
Carmelo Anthony is an elite wing player and the NBA is an elite wing player league.

When is the last time a dominant point guard lead a team to an NBA title? Isiah Thomas and the Pistons in 1989-1990?

When is the last team an NBA championship team featured a hall of fame point guard?? Isiah Thomas again?

Now ask yourself the same questions regarding dominant wing players

mafra
Aug 05, 2010, 22:10
2 years ago Melo was an absolute beast in the playoffs. A real bull. He almost knocked the Lakers out by himself! He's also won an NCAA title. Dude is a winner!

Surround him with players and he's another asset! Come on folks!

We have the money.... who else to offer it to? Unless Gallo and Randolph like EXPLODE this season and dominate.... Knicks have to bring Melo to MSG.

Paul1355
Aug 05, 2010, 22:12
2 years ago Melo was an absolute beast in the playoffs. A real bull. He almost knocked the Lakers out by himself! He's also won an NCAA title. Dude is a winner!

Surround him with players and he's another asset! Come on folks!

We have the money.... who else to offer it to? Unless Gallo and Randolph like EXPLODE this season and dominate.... Knicks have to bring Melo to MSG.
good post...you get a rep point

metrocard
Aug 06, 2010, 08:58
uhm . . . what?

Glenn Robinson played with a young Ray Allen and took the Bucks to the Eastern Conference Finals one season.
Carmelo Anthony played with Chauncy Billups and took the Nuggets to the Western Conference Finals one season.
Can you please provide the other members of this forum with your definition of the word "further"??? lol

edit: I hope you aren't thinking of 2005 when he won a championship with the Spurs as a ride-along roleplayer.

Carmelo had better pieces on his team than Robinson.

Either way, they're not different players so stop acting like they are. Carmelo is Glen Robinson in a high paced offense.


Break out your Spanish-English dictionary so you can figure it out, or I can paypal you a dollar so you can buy a CLUE!!!!!

I'm 100% positive my English and my Spanish outclasses your vocabulary. People in the midwest are known for butchering up the English language into a lot of hick gibberish. I really can't understand you. So try a little harder or ask someone to write your post for you. You talk a lot **** and mindless statements that have no validity or proof. You're the most bias poster on this site. **** Chicago, **** St. Louis, **** Cincinnati, **** Kansas City, **** the Midwest. This is a Knicks forum and its well KNOWN you're a midwest fan and a Chicago Bulls fan (you never bad mouth them or dare to).


Anyway, Carmelo is overrated.

He has had a history of problems and seems like a guy who would get injured or break the law and bring drama and chaos to the franchise. Forget about him. Gallo is our man. Our front court is PERFECT. Randolph provides the rebounding, shot blocking, scoring, passing...Gallo provides the IQ, scoring, shooting, passing, hustle, and Amare provides an all star presence, post scoring, 22-25 ppg.

Real NY Baller
Aug 06, 2010, 10:01
Mellow has refused to sign the extension and he is very adamant about coming to NY. I can't see the Knicks keeping all the fowards they currently have. If they are smart, they will get rid of Gallo because the NY media has always over expose and over hype NY sports teams and their players (Look at the LEE and Duhon deal and how great that worked out for the knicks and these over rated players). The Knicks brass depends on this fake media hype to boost the popularity of the players, Denver is going to want something in return...so if the media is really doing their job Gallo should look really nice to them.

Mello will be traded because Denver dosen't want to get stuck with nothing. And Mello wants NY badly. Bring in the home town kid and take out the over rated trash.

Dolon has zeke in his ear and D'Antonio and walsh are nervous because they are bringing in has beens and inexperience players. Zeke will get Dolon to push out D'Antonio pet Gallo. The sooner the better because this is Professional basketball, not a family affair.

This might be the best move yet for the knicks this off season.

pakopako
Aug 06, 2010, 14:23
Just don't get too carried away with these news about Melo and CP3, we all know that we might not get them.

What, didn't we get the King to come to NY? (And by King, I mean jerk. And by jerk, I mean Isiah.)