mafra
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JC had to shoot it high over Manu. A contested 3 with a hand in your face not what you want in that spot... You can let them play but when you see nothing was happening you have to leap on to court and call a TO.
Game Thread: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs 8:30pm 1/8/2016
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JC had to shoot it high over Manu. A contested 3 with a hand in your face not what you want in that spot... You can let them play but when you see nothing was happening you have to leap on to court and call a TO.
I wonder if Galloway's lack of real PG skills cost them there--I think he was the one who grabbed that defensive rebound and just put his head down and headed up court. Gotta know how many TOs you have and know you gotta call it right away, or at least look over at Fisher to see. I'm not sure he even looked over. I have to see it again...The big positive takeaway---Seeing how aggressive KP was tonight, against that frontcourt in their gym. wow. I know he's had some real good games but this one in particular really gets me excited about the player he could become eventually.
They've found a formula to win with, mediocre game by Melo and to lose to maybe the best team in the league by 1 pt, I'm optimistic about the rest of the season. Mill's and PJ should see that a PG is still a need so I expect them to look for help there.
Jimmer is not locked into the Knicks meaning any team can sign him. Wouldn't hurt to bring him up with an empty roster spot and Cle out, Lin earned his spot by dominating PG's he played against in practice so maybe Jimmer can show what he can do in practice if Fish is reluctant to play him in games.
They had 16 seconds on that final possession so it was Fishers choice not to call a time out. Came down to 1 shot and the one that comes to mind is that Thomas contested shot in the paint where he didn't pass it to KP who was like 4 ft away from him wide open under the basket, that was a dunk or easy layup that may have been the difference. 
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Fisher consoled Anthony afterward on the court, telling him he did the right thing.
?He said keep your head up,?? Anthony said. ?You made the right play.??
Calderon said he had a ?pretty good look,?? but Ginobili was closing.
?Last minute, I had to pull the ball a little bit higher, he was contesting the shot really well,?? said Calderon, who shot 2 of 9 on the night, missing his first and only 3-point attempt. ?He was close to touching it. The last minute, I hit it and that?s why it went a little too long. But it was a good look.
?But everybody?s going to want me out of New York because I missed the shot, but that?s what happened,?? the oft-criticized Calderon added.
?There?s no moral victories,?? Fisher said of his message to the team. ?We had an opportunity to win the game and didn?t. We have to accept that and own it. Second thing, not to let [the media] come in here and pat them on the back for getting close. We weren?t good enough to win the game. We didn?t. We don?t get a gold star for getting close. This isn?t elementary school. It?s professional sports.??
SAN ANTONIO ? Carmelo Anthony held the ball and had the chance to give the Knicks an historic victory and shock the NBA as they took the Spurs down to the final tick Friday night.
But this is the new Anthony, so he passed up a last-second shot and fed Jose Calderon, who missed an open left-corner 3-pointer at the buzzer as the Spurs hung on in a 100-99 thriller, protecting their home unbeaten record at AT&T Center.
There was no victory, but the surging Knicks (18-20), rallying from 12 points down early in the fourth quarter, earned lots of respect and Anthony?s recent rep as a late-game distributor grew larger.
Trailing by one with 16 seconds left after a Tony Parker miss, Knicks coach Derek Fisher elected not to call timeout as Anthony dribbled down the clock, drove to the left of the lane on defending Defensive Player of the Year Kawhi Leonard, with Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili darting toward him to help. Anthony could have tried one of his $124 million pump-fakes and attempted to draw a foul, but he saw Calderon open.
?I was thinking about it: Did I make the right play??? Anthony said. ?After seeing it multiple times after the game, I felt I made the right play. It?s kind of a lose-lose situation. But I?ll take it tonight. No way I could get a shot off. I had Kawhi Leonard on my right side, two guys on my left. I feel good with making that play tonight.??
Carmelo Anthony drives between two Spurs defenders on his way to the basket.Photo: AP
Anthony said jokingly that four years ago, he would have shot it. ?And I probably would?ve made it too,?? he said.
Fisher consoled Anthony afterward on the court, telling him he did the right thing.
?He said keep your head up,?? Anthony said. ?You made the right play.??
Calderon said he had a ?pretty good look,?? but Ginobili was closing.
?Last minute, I had to pull the ball a little bit higher, he was contesting the shot really well,?? said Calderon, who shot 2 of 9 on the night, missing his first and only 3-point attempt. ?He was close to touching it. The last minute, I hit it and that?s why it went a little too long. But it was a good look.
?But everybody?s going to want me out of New York because I missed the shot, but that?s what happened,?? the oft-criticized Calderon added.
The Knicks got a terrific game from rookie sensation Kristaps Porzingis (28 points, 11 rebounds), but they needed one from Anthony. He came on late, but it wasn?t enough. Anthony finished with 20 points and shot 5 of 15, but his assist total stayed stuck on three after Calderon shot it long.
The Knicks were trying to become the first team to win in San Antonio this season and alert the league they have arrived after a recent 4-1 surge. They may have done the latter. The Knicks grabbed a nine-point lead in the second quarter, led briefly in the third quarter and then came on strong down the stretch, with Langston Galloway (11 points) playing high-octane, Arron Afflalo hitting two late 3-pointers and Anthony stepping up.
Still, Fisher told his players he didn?t want to hear any moral-victory talk.
?There?s no moral victories,?? Fisher said of his message to the team. ?We had an opportunity to win the game and didn?t. We have to accept that and own it. Second thing, not to let [the media] come in here and pat them on the back for getting close. We weren?t good enough to win the game. We didn?t. We don?t get a gold star for getting close. This isn?t elementary school. It?s professional sports.??
Anthony thought otherwise.
?I can?t ask for anything better than that to put yourself in that position to win on the road to win here,?? Anthony said. ?It?s hard to do. I?ll take a loss like this any day.??
The victory made the Spurs 22-0 at home this season, 31-0 in the regular season dating to 2014-15. In just one of those games did the Spurs trail in the fourth quarter and the Knicks had their chances of being the second team to do that to them.
?He said keep your head up,?? Anthony said. ?You made the right play.??
Calderon said he had a ?pretty good look,?? but Ginobili was closing.
?Last minute, I had to pull the ball a little bit higher, he was contesting the shot really well,?? said Calderon, who shot 2 of 9 on the night, missing his first and only 3-point attempt. ?He was close to touching it. The last minute, I hit it and that?s why it went a little too long. But it was a good look.
?But everybody?s going to want me out of New York because I missed the shot, but that?s what happened,?? the oft-criticized Calderon added.
?There?s no moral victories,?? Fisher said of his message to the team. ?We had an opportunity to win the game and didn?t. We have to accept that and own it. Second thing, not to let [the media] come in here and pat them on the back for getting close. We weren?t good enough to win the game. We didn?t. We don?t get a gold star for getting close. This isn?t elementary school. It?s professional sports.??
SAN ANTONIO ? Carmelo Anthony held the ball and had the chance to give the Knicks an historic victory and shock the NBA as they took the Spurs down to the final tick Friday night.
But this is the new Anthony, so he passed up a last-second shot and fed Jose Calderon, who missed an open left-corner 3-pointer at the buzzer as the Spurs hung on in a 100-99 thriller, protecting their home unbeaten record at AT&T Center.
There was no victory, but the surging Knicks (18-20), rallying from 12 points down early in the fourth quarter, earned lots of respect and Anthony?s recent rep as a late-game distributor grew larger.
Trailing by one with 16 seconds left after a Tony Parker miss, Knicks coach Derek Fisher elected not to call timeout as Anthony dribbled down the clock, drove to the left of the lane on defending Defensive Player of the Year Kawhi Leonard, with Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili darting toward him to help. Anthony could have tried one of his $124 million pump-fakes and attempted to draw a foul, but he saw Calderon open.
?I was thinking about it: Did I make the right play??? Anthony said. ?After seeing it multiple times after the game, I felt I made the right play. It?s kind of a lose-lose situation. But I?ll take it tonight. No way I could get a shot off. I had Kawhi Leonard on my right side, two guys on my left. I feel good with making that play tonight.??
Carmelo Anthony drives between two Spurs defenders on his way to the basket.Photo: AP
Anthony said jokingly that four years ago, he would have shot it. ?And I probably would?ve made it too,?? he said.
Fisher consoled Anthony afterward on the court, telling him he did the right thing.
?He said keep your head up,?? Anthony said. ?You made the right play.??
Calderon said he had a ?pretty good look,?? but Ginobili was closing.
?Last minute, I had to pull the ball a little bit higher, he was contesting the shot really well,?? said Calderon, who shot 2 of 9 on the night, missing his first and only 3-point attempt. ?He was close to touching it. The last minute, I hit it and that?s why it went a little too long. But it was a good look.
?But everybody?s going to want me out of New York because I missed the shot, but that?s what happened,?? the oft-criticized Calderon added.
The Knicks got a terrific game from rookie sensation Kristaps Porzingis (28 points, 11 rebounds), but they needed one from Anthony. He came on late, but it wasn?t enough. Anthony finished with 20 points and shot 5 of 15, but his assist total stayed stuck on three after Calderon shot it long.
The Knicks were trying to become the first team to win in San Antonio this season and alert the league they have arrived after a recent 4-1 surge. They may have done the latter. The Knicks grabbed a nine-point lead in the second quarter, led briefly in the third quarter and then came on strong down the stretch, with Langston Galloway (11 points) playing high-octane, Arron Afflalo hitting two late 3-pointers and Anthony stepping up.
Still, Fisher told his players he didn?t want to hear any moral-victory talk.
?There?s no moral victories,?? Fisher said of his message to the team. ?We had an opportunity to win the game and didn?t. We have to accept that and own it. Second thing, not to let [the media] come in here and pat them on the back for getting close. We weren?t good enough to win the game. We didn?t. We don?t get a gold star for getting close. This isn?t elementary school. It?s professional sports.??
Anthony thought otherwise.
?I can?t ask for anything better than that to put yourself in that position to win on the road to win here,?? Anthony said. ?It?s hard to do. I?ll take a loss like this any day.??
The victory made the Spurs 22-0 at home this season, 31-0 in the regular season dating to 2014-15. In just one of those games did the Spurs trail in the fourth quarter and the Knicks had their chances of being the second team to do that to them.
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jimkcchief88
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Sorry I missed the Friday night thriller, but spot on analysis here. Fish doesn't call the timeout and let's the boys play.. I get that because I forget which game a few weeks ago he called the timeout on the wrong side of the timeline and we didn't get a good look either...but again it's our weakness at the PG spot...giving up to many easy layups to Tony Parker and having no clue in end game situations. We only lost by one but Calderone is camped out at the three point line like we NEEDED a three....and then of course Calderone shoots his perfunctory brick..... ISO-Melo is still kicking himself for not taking that last shot like the superstar is supposed to do...Melo was $$$$ down the stretch upfake and up and under gets you to the stripe(maybe) but it's better than watching 2-9 Calderone heave up another stone um um um
jimkcchief88
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Oh yea and Jose: KNIcKs fans have wanted you gone LONG before last nights game on Chief
Calderon makes that shot he would have silenced a lot of his critics like myself. Thought he played a terrible game, I don't know what Clyde was talking about praising him during the game.
A reliable source says Mills is keyed in on getting Darren Collision......Kiya do we want him ? anyone ?
mafra
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Makes sense since he was a name that was discussed when we were trying to move Shumpert. If it costs us little... Why not.
Darren Collison over Calderon all-day .. everyday
this is the new anthony that passed to calderon?
No this is the carmelo who could not read the defense and put calderon in a suicide situation. The same carmelo that dumped the ball to jared jeffries in the playoffs vs the celtics and he lost the ball out of bounds..
carmelo is 31 years old and he has been in the league for 13 years, that was sappy and corny for fisher to come over there consoling him like he was some second year player...
The knicks will never get it, They will NEVER win with carmelo.. cut that dog loose... why not run a play with grant and porzingis? I mean it is about the future right? what good came out of giving carmelo the ball to botch up a last possession again, as he has done many times in his knick tenure?
fisher is correct tho. No moral victories
collinson is a good player.. I like him a lot, but I think he is a good backup.... what are the knicks trying to do? going after collison just screams, lets try to win while carmelo is here, and that is NOT HAPPENING!!!!
start grant, actually see what you have in him, for better or worse, then look to address the PG situation in the offseason...
better yet, why didn't the knicks just draft a PG, mudiay despite his turnovers is going to be a fine PG and one with size, that has been the knicks glaring weakness for years.. Porzingis is a fine kid, but did the knicks really need a 7'3 perimeter player who has a raw perimeter game and no game in the paint?
ok, but I am not the one crying about a PG and talking about trading for backups to come start here... No need to keep drinking the porzingis Koolaid.. what you will find in this draft is that there are a lot of good players, some who will take a huge leap as the season goes on or even next year... for the knicks I would have taken mudiay because the knicks needed a PG and to me he may be the best one in the draft... and since you guys like talking potential, he has the potential to be a GREAT PG.... he already is one of the better passers at PG in the league..
tell me, did the knicks need a 7'3 jump shooter? be honest and put down the kool aid...
the knicks could have had both mudiay and portis( since they did trade and get a later pick in grant) Portis may end up being one of if not the best big in this draft....
This is about being honest with oneself not just backing every move the knicks make because you are a knicks fan..
He's much more than a jump shooter. Leads the Knicks in RB's and blocks, the guy is more a force on the defensive end than on the other side of the ball. Mudiay so far is no where near the caliber of this kid, absolutely the best draft pick the Knicks could have made at #4 and the best draft pick they've made since Ewing.
A force? really, force.. lets be honest robin lopez has been the force in the middle for the knicks. porzigis is good with the weakside blocks and blocks from behind, I hardly call that a force..
But as far as mudiay, i guess you don't watch him play. but he is every bit the talent that porzingis is, injuries have derailed him a bit, but if you are talking potential as most of you like to do here, then you have to accurately assess mudiay as well and to say he is no where near the caliber of porzingis then you are failing to do so...
The knicks have been looking for a PG for many years and have failed to put a high level talent on the court at that position. the knicks could have gotten a shot blocker rebounder later in the draft.. IE: bobby portis who IMO is also every bit the talent porzingis is.... for what they do..
It is ok to be excited about porzingis, but if you watch a lot of other games around the league, look at a lot of young players, it will help you put some things in perspective, I could run down some game logs of some young bigs in this league, and it will shock you and they are not playing as many minutes as porzingis...
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