Trade Deadline News

Apparently, Knicks owner James Dolan might not be satisfied with just getting rid of Fizdale. Rumor is that Dolan could be looking to clean house in the front office.

And Sam Presti is reportedly one of the potential replacements that he?s interested in.

According to Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News, Dolan could look to bring in Presti, that is if he?s unable to get Raptors General Manager Masai Ujiri.

?Dolan would love to pry Masai Ujiri out of Toronto, but there?s skepticism it can done with the team president under contract. Such a deal would be very complicated if the Raptors play hardball. Another name being mentioned around the league is Thunder president Sam Presti.?

Presti has been on Dolan?s radar for some time now. And considering the Thunder?s success this season, it?s not really surprising.

2019-20 was supposed to be a rebuilding year in Oklahoma City after Presti traded away both Paul George and Russell Westbrook during the offseason.

In return, Presti brought in Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Danilo Gallinari and Chris Paul, along with a boatload of draft picks.

Those pieces have fit together better than anyone could?ve anticipated, and instead of being at the bottom of the Western Conference, the Thunder are sitting solidly in seventh place and on their way to a postseason appearance.

Presti is only 43, and under his leadership, Oklahoma City has 10 winning seasons in 12 years, including a trip to the NBA Finals in 2012.

When it comes to Presti?s potential interest in New York, previous reports have indicated that Presti could be allowed to leave if an opportunity presented itself.

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This is interesting, b/c Knicks are hot and heavy after Dennis Schroder.

OKC has Paul and SGA... makes sense they move the coveted DS. Would he send him to NYK (knowing in his heart he has a chance to come to NYC)? Gets tricky, but with human nature being what it is....

Let?s just say, maybe he doesn?t demand that extra piece or pick being tossed in.

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The Knicks have been in touch with several teams around the league to monitor the trade landscape, so it's not particularly noteworthy that they are among the teams who have touched base recently with the Golden State Warriors.

What is somewhat noteworthy is that several teams say the Warriors are looking to making a trade to help them avoid the luxury tax this season or one that would reduce their future luxury tax bill, per SNY sources.

The Knicks, of course, can help with that effort. They have several players with contracts that aren't guaranteed past this season. So, if they traded one or more of those players to Golden State, it could reduce the Warriors future tax commitments.

ESPN reported that the Warriors could face a $75 million tax with the updated luxury tax projection for 2020-21. That figure is based on Golden State paying the dreaded repeater tax, which is in effect for teams that pay the tax in three of the previous four seasons.

If Golden State gets below the luxury tax this season, they will avoid paying the repeater tax. There are a number of smaller transactions that could get Golden State below the luxury tax this season.

Also, if the Warriors traded guard D'Angelo Russell, there are scenarios where they could shed some salary to help them towards a goal of getting under the tax this season. There are also scenarios where a Russell trade could reduce the Warriors' future tax bills.

Just something to keep in mind as we get closer to Thursday's 3 p.m. ET NBA trade deadline.

Other notes...

Several teams have had conversations with the Knicks about potential deals involving Bobby Portis recently, per sources. Portis signed a two-year deal worth $15 million annually that isn't fully guaranteed for next season. He is averaging 9.4 points and 5.4 rebounds in 21 minutes per game for New York. Portis is shooting 35 percent from beyond the arc.

SNY sources confirm that some with the Knicks would like to see the club pursue a point guard at the trade deadline, as the NY Daily News reported. OKC's Dennis Schroeder is among the point guards believed to be available. As noted earlier, the Knicks see Charlotte's Malik Monk as a potential trade target -- teams believe that the Knicks and Marcus Morris have strong mutual interest in Morris signing with New York in free agency this summer; this will impact Morris' value to teams interested in trading for him.

SNY's Ian Begley previously reported Dec. 18 that the Minnesota Timberwolves were among several NBA teams interested in trading for Smith Jr. ahead of Feb. 6's afternoon deadline.

At least one more team is known after the Orlando Magic "inquired" with the Knicks about Smith Jr., according to a Sunday afternoon report by Marc Berman of the New York Post.

I bet our lame duck front office does nothing between now and the trade deadline. Literally nothing.

mafra said:

Apparently, Knicks owner James Dolan might not be satisfied with just getting rid of Fizdale. Rumor is that Dolan could be looking to clean house in the front office.

And Sam Presti is reportedly one of the potential replacements that he’s interested in.

According to Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News, Dolan could look to bring in Presti, that is if he’s unable to get Raptors General Manager Masai Ujiri.

“Dolan would love to pry Masai Ujiri out of Toronto, but there’s skepticism it can done with the team president under contract. Such a deal would be very complicated if the Raptors play hardball. Another name being mentioned around the league is Thunder president Sam Presti.”

Presti has been on Dolan’s radar for some time now. And considering the Thunder’s success this season, it’s not really surprising.

2019-20 was supposed to be a rebuilding year in Oklahoma City after Presti traded away both Paul George and Russell Westbrook during the offseason.

In return, Presti brought in Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Danilo Gallinari and Chris Paul, along with a boatload of draft picks.

Those pieces have fit together better than anyone could’ve anticipated, and instead of being at the bottom of the Western Conference, the Thunder are sitting solidly in seventh place and on their way to a postseason appearance.

Presti is only 43, and under his leadership, Oklahoma City has 10 winning seasons in 12 years, including a trip to the NBA Finals in 2012.

When it comes to Presti’s potential interest in New York, previous reports have indicated that Presti could be allowed to leave if an opportunity presented itself.

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This is interesting, b/c Knicks are hot and heavy after Dennis Schroder.

OKC has Paul and SGA... makes sense they move the coveted DS. Would he send him to NYK (knowing in his heart he has a chance to come to NYC)? Gets tricky, but with human nature being what it is....

Let’s just say, maybe he doesn’t demand that extra piece or pick being tossed in.

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It's about time. Dolan has been working in big corporate environments long enough to see when you need to do a reorg and get rid of guys that aren't getting the job done. In the latter category, Mills and Perry, Craig Robinson for the lack of development on the part of our young players. I think there's too much fat in that front office, Alan Houston would be a guy that I'd get rid of, been here too long without much success and advancement by him. Glad Dolan has seen the light when it comes to Presti, I also mentioned Chris Wallace, they demoted him before he could see the fruit of the Griz rebuild but teams seem to be going with these hot shot lawyer types, probably for their understanding of contracts as well as bball knowledge, Dolan should look there and leave no stone unturned to find our new front office.

Article in The Athletic on the a Knicks at the deadline. Everyone has the idea of trading MM and then reacquiring him this summer.

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[FONT=&quot]The countdown clock to the trade deadline is on and ticking. It’ll all be done with by 3 p.m. Feb. 6. The next few days present a critical time for the Knicks. This season, with a 14-36 record and 7.5 games out of a playoff spot, is effectively settled. The best way to make the most of it has been addressed before and still stands now. The final two months of this season are about next season and beyond.
The Knicks can use these next few days to set themselves up for this summer, which can propel them for the seasons ahead after that. The summer of 2019 has proven to be a dud; can the summer of 2020 be better? The groundwork for that is laid during the season and the deadline is a natural flashpoint, when the Knicks can trade and acquire players and assets with the future in mind.
Obviously, this is just one person’s opinion, but here’s what the organization can do to set itself up for the 2020 offseason:
— Trade Marcus Morris for the best package the Knicks can get. The argument for keeping Morris has some sense to it. Keep Morris, who has been the Knicks’ best player this season, maintain the highest level of competitiveness for the last 30ish games of the season, which would make it a better learning environment for the young players, and then re-sign him in the offseason. The last part is almost unsaid because there’s no other reason to keep him if you don’t intend to re-sign him. The Knicks could get away with not trading Noah Vonleh last deadline and then letting him go, but that’s a different level of asset management with Morris. This would indicate that the Knicks view Morris as a piece of the long-term future and a pillar for what they’re trying to do with the team. OK, understood. But wouldn’t acquiring another piece like a promising young player, a first-round pick or multiple second-round picks also improve the long-term outlook? Morris will be a free agent this summer, so he will be out on the open market. The Knicks can double dip by trading Morris and then signing him in July — presumably, they would be willing to be at the top of the market for him because Morris’ actions last summer prove he’s not willing to take less than he’s worth in free agency.
Would Morris turn down that offer because the Knicks traded him a few months before that? That’s a question about ego and pride and impossible to answer at this point. Instances like this proposed Morris outcome are admittedly rare. Intuitively, it doesn’t happen because if a team trades a player before he hits free agency it’s an admission they don’t want to sign him anyway. That could possibly not be the case with Morris, who has said repeatedly he wants to stay with New York. If a decision on whether to trade Morris now is also one on whether to move on with him long-term then the Knicks have to consider several factors.
It’s not just what they could get back for him this month, it’s whether they want to make him a part of their roster for the next few years. This front office has been clear that it doesn’t want to muddle its cap sheet moving forward. Would they deviate from that for Morris, who will be 31 at the start of next season? Does he line up with the rest of the roster they have assembled so far? The only players definitively under contract for next season (without team options or non-guaranteed deals) for the Knicks are 22 or younger and 25-year-old Julius Randle. Does that mean the Knicks will try to spend on veterans again in free agency this upcoming summer like they did in 2019? The 2020 free agent class isn’t seen as a strong one and that would mean doing another mashup of youth and veterans. Keeping Morris through the deadline would have opportunity costs now and in the future.
— Consider taking on a contract that will extend into next season. The Knicks are in position to have loads of cap space this summer, which is great until you try to figure out what they can do with it. The free agent class in July will be much different than the one last summer. Anthony Davis, the top free agent, is probably staying in Los Angeles. One would think the Pelicans offer Brandon Ingram, an restricted free agent, the max. Andre Drummond, DeMar DeRozan and Gordon Hayward could all opt out. The latter two will be 30 or older next season, and Drummond is a center who presents logistical issues for a franchise already endowed with Mitchell Robinson, let alone paying big money to a non-game changing center. The Knicks could splash the pot on Fred VanVleet and Montrezl Harrell if they want. But no one stands out as a must-get player worth opening up loads of space for.
Cap space is only as valuable as the players a team can spend it on. Instead of saving up, would the Knicks be willing to take on players already under contract for next season? It could allow them to add some talent for next season, while taking on a problematic contract along with it if they need to because they have the flexibility. Detroit has made Luke Kennard available. Would Philadelphia move Zhaire Smith for immediate help to its title-hunting team? For the Knicks, it’s a way to add assets or helpful veterans in exchange for alleviating another franchise’s cap issues. It’s one of the benefits of all those expiring-type contracts they’ve amassed.
— Try to trade for an upcoming restricted free agent. The restricted free agent class this summer should actually be pretty good. In 2019, teams showed they were willing to let go of their restricted free agents without the waiting period if they knew they weren’t going to match a contract. It allowed deals to get done quicker. Could the Knicks try to be opportunistic and find a team that already knows its salary ceiling on its RFA and strike before the player gets to free agency? Bogdan Bogdanovic is a talented player on a Sacramento team with a lot of money already committed to the frontcourt. Dillon Brooks has taken a nice step forward in Memphis, averaging 16.1 points per game and hitting 40 percent of his 3s. That’s the top end of the RFA class, along with Ingram. There’s also Malik Beasley, Juan Hernang?mez, Chris Boucher and Denzel Valentine, among others. If the Knicks could utilize their assets to add a player who they would have interest in this summer and be in position to re-sign him, wouldn’t that be better than just cap space?
— Consider dangling their first-round pick. This one may seem somewhat absurd on its face. It probably brings flashbacks for Knicks fans of bad trades past for the franchise, but listen to the logic first. Drafting is an inherently risky proposition. Even the best teams aren’t guaranteed to nail it and have choppy years. For any one team to think it can definitely draft a player who will go on to be good is to misjudge the collective history of drafting. Now pair that with the 2020 draft, which is expected to be a weak one at the top. That’s a risk sandwich and it doesn’t sound too inviting (like ordering half-off sushi right before the restaurant closes and after it’s been sitting around all day — do so at your own peril). So when you take those two things into mind, it’s not that wild to start thinking whether the Knicks would be better off dealing their first-round pick for a more established player.
Would the Warriors be willing to part with D’Angelo Russell, who has seemed like a tourist in Golden State since the moment he signed, for the Knicks’ first-round pick (which currently situated would have a 48.1 percent chance of landing in the top four and 42.4 percent of being either No. 6 or 7) and an exchange of contractual flotsam to make it work? Russell, 23, could be the point guard the Knicks are looking for and take out the uncertainty that comes with bringing in another 19-year-old. The Warriors could use their own first and the Knicks’ first to make a play to help optimize the window for a title-winning core. What about making a play for Lauri Markkanen, who is going through a hellish year in Chicago, but could take more to get than where the pick ultimately lands and would make a great pair with Mitchell Robinson? This might not be the right time to do such a thing anyway — not with the pick’s value still unknown since it could also land at No. 1, and the future of the front office uncertain, too — but it should be considered.
— Play the kids to know what they’ve got. The best way to plan for the next season is to know what you already have. That’s what the Knicks need to use the rest of the season for: to find out what they have in their collection of under-22 players. What is Kevin Knox in his second NBA season? What is Frank Ntilikina in his third? If Dennis Smith Jr. is around after the deadline then can he recover from a very rough first 50 games? What is Ignas Brazdeikis at this point? All important questions worth answering in February, March and April.
— Start figuring out the roster that can be constructed to best optimize RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson. One of the downsides of last offseason was that it didn’t play out in service of the team’s young building blocks. The scouting report on Barrett coming into the draft was that he would benefit from getting to the NBA and playing in an offense with more spacing and room for him. Instead, the Knicks started him alongside three non-shooters for most of the season so far. They signed a coterie of big men who impeded on Robinson’s playing opportunity. In 2020, the Knicks should prioritize building out around those two — while also still trying to make themselves a hospitable situation for Knox, Ntilikina, and Smith — by putting together a roster that suits them.



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Bill Simmons ragging on Knicks for not signing D-RUSSELL (for signing 4 PFs) and now trying to trade for him.

But, he was sent to GSW in a sign and trade, and got more money than Knicks could?ve offered. No?

And, the names I?m hearing is Portis and Frank.

Anyway... sounds like we may be getting a new PG soon.

Also, rumor today is NY is hell-bent on keeping MM

Stay tuned.

Preview of the trades our front office will be able to make happen:

Trade for diddily to team up with the squat we already have.

Trade sandwiches when Mills realizes his mom made him tuna and he really wants Perry?s PB and J

Trade holding dick from right to left hand

That is all.

Just a Rumor...take it for what it’s worth ����

According to early rumors we’re hearing it’s clear we’re trying to get a point guard. Problem is we have two doofuses running this operation

As far as the could’ve had D-Lo this past offseason, DA MEDIA can’t have it both ways! Should be quite apparent what I’m getting at...Simmons needs to be laughed out of his existence, seriously can’t stand him

D-Russ was a RFA. Bill is clueless.

GSW clearly using us to get KAT. If they want to salary dump, to avoid tax implications.... fine... Send them that reported package.

But, no way we should send MRob and our 1st along with that.

We could trade MRob, then sign Drummond. But they don?t get Knox and Frank with MRob.

Not in love with DRuss either. Get me Schroeder, if we consider the cost and draft Ball or Anthony.

Broadway said:

Just a Rumor...take it for what it?s worth

According to early rumors we?re hearing it?s clear we?re trying to get a point guard. Problem is we have two doofuses running this operation

As far as the could?ve had D-Lo this past offseason, DA MEDIA can?t have it both ways! Should quite apparent what I?m getting at...Simmons needs to be laughed out if his existence, seriously can?t stand him

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Objectively speaking, our offer is awful and their counter offer isn?t crazy. I?d try to get them to take one of Dallas? 1st rounders and talk them out of MRob.

htr10 said:

Objectively speaking, our offer is awful and their counter offer isn?t crazy. I?d try to get them to take one of Dallas? 1st rounders and talk them out of MRob.

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GSW due to pay 80 mil tax bill. They?re desperately trying to clear payroll to avoid the repeater tax...

You can?t look at this as a normal, trading player to maximize value....

Obviously, with NyK involved, they?re trying to take advantage of our idiot owner/front office.

GSW most likely to hope that a D-Rus and lottery pick is a start for a KAT package or for some other all star on the block.

GSW probably will actually develop Knox and Knits...

mafra said:

GSW due to pay 80 mil tax bill. They?re desperately trying to clear payroll to avoid the repeater tax...

You can?t look at this as a normal, trading player to maximize value....

Obviously, with NyK involved, they?re trying to take advantage of our idiot owner/front office.

GSW most likely to hope that a D-Rus and lottery pick is a start for a KAT package or for some other all star on the block.

GSW probably will actually develop Knox and Knits...

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GSW is not going to trade us Russell for that current offer, even if they want to shed salary. We pretend Ntilikina, Knox, and Portis have value, but they don?t. Trier at least we can all openly acknowledge has no value.

htr10 said:

GSW is not going to trade us Russell for that current offer, even if they want to shed salary. We pretend Ntilikina, Knox, and Portis have value, but they don?t. Trier at least we can all openly acknowledge has no value.

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Who knows how they evaluate our guys... Point is... GSW looking to shed payroll. So, if we accommodate... it shouldn?t be painful for us.

I don?t want D-Rus at that contract anyway, unless he falls in our laps for our underwhelming perceived flops.

What?s GSW record? And he joined a quality club... he isn?t a number 1 or 2 option, like KP situation.

They want to have money to improve club next season and avoid massive tax bill. DRus at 126 mil or something isn?t attractive asset

htr10 said:

Objectively speaking, our offer is awful and their counter offer isn?t crazy. I?d try to get them to take one of Dallas? 1st rounders and talk them out of MRob.

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I think an offer of MRob and our unprotected first is a reasonable offer for DLO along with the expirings. I don't think the Warriors would have any interest in acquiring any of our other young guys aside from Mitch.

Knicks FO is STUPID !!!
D.Russel were a FA in the off-season the Knicks had $80M in cap space.

The past few seasons D.Russell's performance has prove to be more of a decent SG having combo-guard skills, than the play-maker PG the Knicks are looking for. D.Lo & RJ in the back-court would be the same as ISO-Zo & RJ in the back-court.
If D.Russel had a PG in the lineup with the GSW the team would have more than 11 wins by mid-season.

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I think an offer of MRob and our unprotected first is a reasonable offer for DLO along with the expirings. I don't think the Warriors would have any interest in acquiring any of our other young guys aside from Mitch.

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Then we watch GSW flip MRob and 2 lottery picks in June for KAT (with other stuff).

I would prefer KAT to D-Rus! Then again, both MIN and GSW suck with those 2 as their lead dawgs. D-Rus even worse, bc he has a championship Squad around him (minus the injured stars) and he can?t carry them to even 20 wins


Again, D-Rus at 100 mil isn?t exactly what I would want

tiger0330 said:

I think an offer of MRob and our unprotected first is a reasonable offer for DLO along with the expirings. I don't think the Warriors would have any interest in acquiring any of our other young guys aside from Mitch.

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The Knicks only have ONE Big-Man (MitchRob) on the Knicks roster .. A winning play-maker PG need 2 or 3 Big-men in the rotation to win games.

The Knicks need a leader PG (not D.LO) to take the ball out of Randle-Handle hands ..
The Knicks need 3 BIG-men their game rotation of Drummond, MitchRob, and Taj Gibson .. Go after a FA Drummond!
The Knicks need Knox to become more active in the paint and on the glass by rebounding ..
Knicks need to tandem Frank & Dotson in a lineup to run the back-court together ..
The trio lineup of Payton, RJ, and Morris need to be more creative in their ball-movement ..

Knicks reportedly looking at options to trade Julius Randle?s contract to free up cap room to sign Marcus Morris to a long term extension.

Knicks reportedly don?t think a late 1st round pick is enough for Morris and will only trade him for an ?all-star caliber? player.

Morris is 30 years old and having a career year on a team that might not win 30 games. Red flags across the board. Trading him for a 1st round pick when we could still resign him in free agency would almost be a common sense move if we really were obsessed with signing him long term.

Man, our front office is dumb.

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Some names that came up in Hornets and Knicks recent talks included Julius Randle, Dennis Smith Jr., Terry Rozier and Malik Monk, per SNY sources. Ringer first reported that Knicks and Hornets had recently discussed Julius Randle.

?How to construct a trade that makes sense for both teams is harder. The numbers work if Charlotte sends out Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Miles Bridges, plus a second-round pick, but does that help the Knicks build for the future. No way the Hornets throw PJ Washington into the mix, and besides that who would New York want??