2012-13 Mike Woodson Coaching Performance Thread

I'm wondering however if JR continues to play such an inspired hoops will he seek for more dough someplace else or will he accept what we can offer him which is around $7M if I remember correctly.
 
If the Knicks win more than 50 games and the atlantic division Woodson should definitely win NBA coach of the year. But knowing the media's love fest for the Brooklyn Nets the award will probably go to Avery Johnson when all is said and done.
 
How Mike D'Antoni Turned Woodson into a Supercoach

The move to bring in Woody as the defensive specialist last season was a brilliant one. Woodson has always been known as a defensive minded coach. Being under Coach D'Antoni, Woodson was paying attention on how Mike ran his offensive schemes and spacing.

When he was in Atlanta, he played a much more traditional NBA offense. Now 10 games into the season Woody's team has shot over 36 3 pointers in 2 games and both were in blow-out wins.

To me it's obvious Woodson benefited greatly and really watched closely to D'Antoni's system. Woody's Defense mixed along with concepts of Mike Dantoni's system has really turned him into some kind of super-coach.

When Amare comes back I know we'll see alot more pick n Roll

Has anyone else noticed this?
 
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Sure... :thumbsup:

it was D'Antoni.

Forget Coaches like Bob Knight, Red Holzman, and Larry Brown.

Fail.:whack:

You can't mention MDA and Woody in the same sentence unless you are pointing to what a failure and mistake MDA was being here.
 
...of course it was D'Antoni who came up with the idea to post Melo 23% of our possessions. (Sarcasm)

NOT.
 
JoHnNyBoXeR said:
The move to bring in Woody as the defensive specialist last season was a brilliant one. Woodson has always been known as a defensive minded coach. Being under Coach D'Antoni, Woodson was paying attention on how Mike ran his offensive schemes and spacing.

When he was in Atlanta, he played a much more traditional NBA offense. Now 10 games into the season Woody's team has shot over 36 3 pointers in 2 games and both were in blow-out wins.

To me it's obvious Woodson benefited greatly and really watched closely to D'Antoni's system. Woody's Defense mixed along with concepts of Mike Dantoni's system has really turned him into some kind of super-coach.

When Amare comes back I know we'll see alot more pick n Roll

Has anyone else noticed this?
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Great Thread see my thread when I talk about all the other coaches that have lent themselves to Woody like Bob Knight Red Holtzman and Larry Brown
 
Mike D'antoni doesn't deserve credit for anything. He promised to make the Knicks competitive in his first two years as coach for them and did just as bad of a job as Isiah Thomas did. His excuse was that he couldn't win without star players. He needed to have top 10 players in order to duplicate the success that he had with the Phoenix Suns.

He was then given Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony and led the Knicks to a first round sweep in his third season and nearly caused the Knicks to miss the playoffs last season.His second excuse was that he couldn't win with Carmelo Anthony leading the offense and needed a dominating PG to prove how his system could lead a team to a title. Apparently he couldn't win with just any superstar but needed certain superstars to win.

In his close to four year stint with the Knicks, D'antoni's coaching record was 121-167 with zero playoff wins and had the Knicks finish in the top 8 of worst defensive teams in the NBA his first three seasons with them. And on top of that he benched players that would have helped the Knicks win games.

It is sad how people look for ways to praise this guy long after he is no longer here and are quick to dismiss his flaws. To say that Mike Woodson's current success is due to Mike D'antoni is an insult and can only come from the mind of a D'antoni defender, no offense to the OP of this thread.

D'antoni resigning and Woodson taking over for him was one of the best things to happen to this franchise. The Knicks no longer had to deal with an incompetent coach who miscoached a talented group of players to underacheive. They replaced him with a guy who knows how to communicate with all of his players and knows that defense is what wins championships not an offensive system that only certain players could play under.
 
People are still so angry/volatile over MDA.

He's gone.

To think that Woodson helped MDA with the defense, but that nothing MDA did helped Woodson I think is a bit naive.

But he's gone now.

Can't we just enjoy this team without bickering over an old coach?

I'm sure some person on here is willing to argue about JVG or Lenny Wilkens if I brought either of them up.
 
Woodson uses alot of the spacing MDA employed when he was with the Knicks.

He has clearly benefitted from working under D' ant.

Not to deminish the impact that other coaches have had on him, but to say that MDA hasn't had an influence would be preposterous.

How many pick and rolls with guys spaced along the 3 pt line the same way do we have to run for people to see/admit this.

Admittedly, the offense looks more effective because we move the ball better and due to personel reason and also because we have complete buy in from Melo.
 
knicksin60 said:
Mike D'antoni doesn't deserve credit for anything. He promised to make the Knicks competitive in his first two years as coach for them and did just as bad of a job as Isiah Thomas did. His excuse was that he couldn't win without star players. He needed to have top 10 players in order to duplicate the success that he had with the Phoenix Suns.

He was then given Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony and led the Knicks to a first round sweep in his third season and nearly caused the Knicks to miss the playoffs last season.His second excuse was that he couldn't win with Carmelo Anthony leading the offense and needed a dominating PG to prove how his system could lead a team to a title. Apparently he couldn't win with just any superstar but needed certain superstars to win.

In his close to four year stint with the Knicks, D'antoni's coaching record was 121-167 with zero playoff wins and had the Knicks finish in the top 8 of worst defensive teams in the NBA his first three seasons with them. And on top of that he benched players that would have helped the Knicks win games.

It is sad how people look for ways to praise this guy long after he is no longer here and are quick to dismiss his flaws. To say that Mike Woodson's current success is due to Mike D'antoni is an insult and can only come from the mind of a D'antoni defender, no offense to the OP of this thread.

D'antoni resigning and Woodson taking over for him was one of the best things to happen to this franchise. The Knicks no longer had to deal with an incompetent coach who miscoached a talented group of players to underacheive. They replaced him with a guy who knows how to communicate with all of his players and knows that defense is what wins championships not an offensive system that only certain players could play under.
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Dude, D'Antoni was a train wreck but let's be objective about this

If you watch our offense, you see lots of pick and roll, lots of screens, much of the stuff D'Antoni did, Woodson kept along....He even said himself he likes to borrow from other coaches and that every coach in the league does this from time to time.

Woodson scrapped the "Iso-Joe" offense and is using a hybrid of D'Antoni's schemes mixed in with some stuff of his own.

Woodson is 10000 times better than D'Antoni as a leader of men, making in-game adjustments, managing rotations, dealing out minutes, etc, but to say he learned NOTHING from D'Antoni offensively would be naive.

It's okay, you can admit Woodson learned something from D'Antoni and think D'Antoni is a sh*tstain at the same time :cool:
 
Not sure why some aren't willing to give credit where credit is due. Woodson has been on record saying that Mike D taught him a lot about the offensive side of the ball and the many variations of the pick and roll that he admittedly says he uses with his current play book.


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carlito1171 said:
Dude, D'Antoni was a train wreck but let's be objective about this

If you watch our offense, you see lots of pick and roll, lots of screens, much of the stuff D'Antoni did, Woodson kept along....He even said himself he likes to borrow from other coaches and that every coach in the league does this from time to time.

Woodson scrapped the "Iso-Joe" offense and is using a hybrid of D'Antoni's schemes mixed in with some stuff of his own.

Woodson is 10000 times better than D'Antoni as a leader of men, making in-game adjustments, managing rotations, dealing out minutes, etc, but to say he learned NOTHING from D'Antoni offensively would be naive.

It's okay, you can admit Woodson learned something from D'Antoni and think D'Antoni is a sh*tstain at the same time :cool:
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I am not denying that Woodson learned something from D'antoni. I just don't believe that Mike D'antoni should be accredited with being the person that made Woodson into a good coach. Putting him on such a high pedestle is ridiculous. I understand that there are Knicks fans who will look for things to praise D'antoni for but sometimes people have to move on.
 
super coach.. im a big fan of woodson but his playoff record is mediocre :barf:

i wouldn't call him a super coach but he sure is the RIGHT coach for this Knicks Squad

phil jackson, Doc rivers, thibs, and Greg pop are guys i'd call SUPERCOACHES
 
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