Knicklover can you read? I said Marburys prime was last year and I admitted his shooting percenteges were not as good as they once were but his 3pt shooting percentages are better then ever. The main thing I wanna see him get credit for is his offense, defense, and team play last year from January to early April when he got hurt. There has been several arguements that I have made backed up by facts that you havent answered.
Im gonna do the math and figure out the average points allowed month by month that the Knicks as a team allowed. I have said several times throughout the arguement that Marbury started to play THE BEST BASKETBALL OF HIS CAREER IN JANUARY OF 2007. Lets see if my stats back this up.
November
117
102
109
105
107
103
100
102
82
76
122
97
107
101
106
102
98
Average=1736/17=102.1 points allowed
December
108
103
90
113
107
97
82
112
123
96
109
92
98
145
108
90
Average=1673/16=104.6 points allowed
January
112
81
93
99
126
97
99
101
106
101
112
96
107
94
104
Average=1528/15=101.9 points allowed
February
86
90
104
106
120
94
104
93
101
93
102
Average=1093/11=99.4 points allowed
March
97
100
100
89
104
92
74
92
92
90
94
93
105
103
Average=1325/14=94.6 points allowed
April
92
99
113
91
98
100
107
104
93
Average=897/9=99.7 points allowed
I said that he picked up his defense in January and was Starbury until he got injured early in April.
Nov. and Dec.=103.3 points allowed per game
Jan. Feb. and March=98.7 points allowed per game
This isnt much of a suprise to me, after WATCHING the Knicks last year I knew that their defense picked it up in January when Marbury began shuttin down point guards in shooting guards. Everytime I bring up the fact that you dont watch the Knicks you have nothing to say.
I know you have problems reading so I just wanna make something I have listed above easier for you to read.
Knicks points allowed month by month
November=102.1
December=104.6
January=101.9
February=99.4
March=94.6
April=99.7
Marburys declining Assists? Lets take a look at the Knicks starting lineup:
Crawford-41mpg, 40.7fg%, 33% 3P, 2.73 TO
Richardson-29mpg, 31.1fg%, 28.7% 3P, 6.6pts
Randolph-32.5mpg, 3.13 TO
Curry-28.1mpg, 2.21TO, 14.9ppg
Besides Nate Robinson, theres isnt any scorers on the bench. I dont think its neccessary for me to put up the stats of Jared Jeffries, Malik Rose, and Fred Jones.
You call this a F*ckin team? Its Bullsh*t that Asshole fans like you callin out Marbury for not bein a good leader, look at the pieces of shit that hes playin with. You dont know how to read either, you have lost this arguement 10 times already.
"If you point out that the best PGs around the league are almost always great team leaders that tend to accent other players strengths and make them better (something Marbury has never been able to do - even at his best). They won't accept it (or don't understand it) because it's an intangible quality. It just happens to be a quality that's extremely important for a PG."
Hey dicklover, if you re-read everything you wouldnt be saying stupid things like this. Metro said this earlier in the thread but since you cant read:
Marbury's first real season with the Nets, they averaged 98 ppg(especially at that time defense was played more frequent), thats not bad at all considering the only real scoring threats Nets had were Marbury and Keith Van Horn.
Going into 2000, things kinda blew up when Nets management(kinda like the Knicks) didn't build around Marbury properly, players couldn't stay healthy and they began to stink.
Marbury's first season in Phoneix(01-02 season), they ranked 17th in the NBA in PPG...thats pretty "average" to me, more than stagnant.
Then in 02-03, Phoneix was improved to 13th in the NBA in PPG led by Marbury.
In 03'-04, Phoneix improved to 94 ppg with Marbury, almost top 10 in the NBA
When Marbury was traded to the Knicks...we looked awesome, we finally had a player maker and a creator who can penetrate.
Marbury did run the offense and the team averaged 97 ppg in 04-05 I believe...thats not bad right?
The point is, Marbury is very capable of running a good offense. Not a Steve Nash offense, but a good one.
Nets offense look like shit, , should Kidd get the blame or should Nets management get the blame for not giving him the right pieces and the right coach?
Marbury doesn't have the coach or the players to be effective.
The reason why our offense is so stagnant is because of Eddy Curry takes a lot of time to get in position and is a predictable player like how Eli is a predictable QB and always get picked. This leads to alot of turnovers, more possessions for the other team. Chicago was a terrible team when they ran their offense through Eddy Curry, they were so bad, they were like FUCK IT...lets just be a jump shooting team, we'll at least WIN games...fuck a post game.
Still, 8 assist a game is extremely impressive. Marbury averaged 9 assist when he first came here. I don't see how you can say he has no "vision", atleast agree he has an adequate amount of vision, but I'll agree with you that he doesn't have Kidd or Nash vision.
I want you to go back to the 5th page of this thread and re-read everything. Then you would see how badly you have gotten destroyed time and time again. You have lost every debate, lets recap:
Wtf are we arguin about anyways?
Marburys defense?
Marburys efficiency?
Marburys top 15 status?
Marburys great play last year?
Marburys offensive capabilites?
Marburys leadership and teamplay?
Marburys ability to perform under pressure?
I dont think Ive seen anyone ever lose the way you lost and you keep comin back settin the Deboe up for me, you make it too easy. You cant win an arguement against someone who actually watches the Knicks, I dont respect anything you said at any point and I proved your weak opinions and misleading stats wrong. What more do you want?