K-Black....I been a Knick Fan way to long to know when Chekett, Grunfield, Layden, Isiah, or Walsh, make a move or the upstairs office make a move.
Pat Riley put this Knick Organization on "Blast" when he quit after the Finals.
The Knick organization owner have to many assets in New York from "Radio City, Optimum Cable, to MSG, ect., ect." where he wanted to keep the value of all his assets together above the Billion dollar level.
Even if he had to keep the Knick players salary cap above $80M so he could pay luxury tax.
Its no different from any man that adds on to his property or house to bring the price value-up so the Bank would value his worth to the bank at that price.
Are you sure the lowering the salary cap was Walsh idea.....with the Economy droping and the barrels of oil at an all time high which was raising prices on every items b/c shipping takes oil to get these item out so people will start tightening up their wallet from spending like they once did.
This sounds more like one of the Dolan's accountants or stock brokers giving him a heads up on the future economy with a losing NBA team?
Any long time NBA & ABA Fan knows that Isiah Thomas would never Hire Larry Brown to shine his shoes. Let alone stab a friend in the back (Dumars) during the time of both the East and Championship Finals. Plus give Larry Brown a salary that was more than coach Phil Jackson.
Isiah Thomas is crooked but he has never been that slimy and stupid.
Do u actually believe that Isiah Thomas would make a trade for Steve Francis to chalenge his pet player Marbury for the PG position, plus trade his 2nd round pride and joy Trevor Ariza with Penny ending contract to Orlando so they can go after FA Lewis?
Do u actually want me to believe that Isiah traded Nazr to the Spurs (so they could win the Championship) when all coach Mark Aquire kept talking about was all the talent Nazr had that was not used in Atlanta?
U actually want me to believe that sucker Colango who was stuck with Marbury, Penny, and Chambers huge long contracts pulling the Phoenix Suns down the drain with thier cancer attitude in the roster forced Isiah into taking injury-prone Penny Hardaway huge long contract that no one on this earth would take under any circumstance....just to get Marbury?
Isiah would steal candy from a baby and sell it back to the parents....I dont buy any of those decision making moves comming from Isiah.
K-Black....are u serious? u remember how Isiah fired coach Chaney without informing him, plus trading everyone of Layden players every other week.
News Flash....why would Isiah fire Chaney and trade all the players and keep Herb Williams as the assistant coach when Isiah brang Mark Aquire for that position? do u actually think all the Knicks Headcoaches starting with Lenny Wilkins, Larry Brown, Isiah, and Dantoni wanted Herb Williams as their assistant coach???
So, we should absolve Isiah because Dolan is an idiot?
I'm just not sure what your point is.....I'm not even sure your post makes any sense. You say Isiah would steal candy from a baby and sell it back to the parents, and somehow I'm supposed to garner from your post that I WANT Isiah running the team?
Your "News Flash" doesn't make any sense either. A "News Flash" is a piece of information, not a rhetorical question.
What does Isiah firing anybody without telling them have to do with my post? How is it that Isiah being crooked would mean I would want him to run the team over Walsh?
If you are blaming Dolan, that's one thing, but the problem with your thesis is that if you are saying that one man (Dolan) controls the entire basketball operation, then there'd be no point to him hiring a GM in the first place. If he's looking to cut costs he can just hire himself as GM. It also doesn't account for the different styles of GMs that came in:
Layden: Extremely tentative, afraid to trade, horrible drafter (see: Frederic Weis)
Isiah: Caution to the wind, trading anyone and everything for big names and even bigger contracts, pretty decent (or better than Layden) at picking deep in drafts (see: Robinson, Lee, Chandler, Balkman, Ariza)
Walsh: Shrewd trades, mind toward salary dumping over Isiah's style of salary acquistion, appears to want to rebuild via free agency
If you are saying one man was the puppet master on all 3, how can you possibly account for the radically different managing styles? If you don't believe the moves came partially from the mind of Isiah (trading Nazr, trading for Steph, Francis) then how can you possibly account for Layden and Walsh NOT doing that. The ownership has been the same.
All I was saying was that the 2010 plan is extremely overblown. The point is to get under the salary cap, get flexibility so that you aren't perpetually caught in salary cap hell.
Finally, for once, we are rebuilding the right way. Unfortunately because Isiah decided to trade our draft picks like it was going out of style, it may take a bit longer than it normally would. But the fact is this regime is trying something different. They aren't taking on big time salaries, they aren't trading draft picks for washed up stars.
Isiah isn't slimy? He was involved in a ****ing SEXUAL HARASSMENT CASE! Of course he's slimy!
Kiya, you seem like a reasonably intelligent dude, and unlike some people on this board you are all about the Knicks winning. But honestly, what is your suggestion? Look at the roster and contracts Walsh inherited. How would YOU have turned THAT mess around? Sat on the contracts?
It just doesn't work, Walsh managed to trade guys we all thought were impossible to trade due to their contracts. Maybe he didn't get a ton of talent back, I'll acknowledge that, but what he did get back was flexibility. He blew up the team and is choosing to build it from the ground up again. I think that's EXACTLY what this team needed. Isiah's team had no direction, no purpose, no point...they were just a bunch of guys wearing "New York" jerseys. I really believe Walsh is trying to build a TEAM, and the only way he could do that was essentially by hitting the "Reset" Button. I don't really see any other options.