lee to utah for our first round pick.
i think utah will keep one or the other but on the chance that both end up elsewhere, this should definitely get considered.
No we should not consider this. Walsh will never do this.
If knicks do this then we have (to tank this sesson) to be the the worse team in nba in order to get a top 3 pick. That means 2010 FA will have a even harder time considering signing with us.
Utah owns our 2010 lottery unprotected first round pick (2004 Marbury Suns Trade, Suns then trade it to Jazz for cap relief move). There is no reason to tank next season and we have to win as many games as possible and aim for the 8th spot in the playoffs. As we stand I don't see us being a playoff team as the Eastern Conference is getting bigger and stronger. I still feel wish a couple of moves we should be fighting for that last spot but Detroit, Boston, Toronto, Orlando, Wizards all got much better and the Bulls are on the verge of getting Bozzer so they will also be great next season.
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i'd prefer getting that number 1 back, i think jeffries isn't as difficult to get rid of as some might think.Interesting thread. Utah is on my list of possible Lee destinations via sign-and-trade, but I want to dump salary in the process.
Utah was hoping to unload Boozer in that 3/way deal that just fell through. That could?ve prevented the Millsap offer sheet, because it could've given Utah leeway to extend Millsap themselves (possibly for lower $$$)...
Now Millsap is signed to a hefty offer sheet, and Utah can?t realistically match it because that'll put them about 12 mil over the luxury tax threshold. It's too bad for them, because they were hoping for Millsap to replace Boozer as their starting power forward for years to come...
No Millsap, means Utah needs their power forward of the future. Boozer is entering the final year of his deal, and they?re trying to trade him. They want to get under the luxury tax threshold (they're about 3.5 mil over).
OK, here?s what I propose:
DLee + Jeffries for Boozer
They get their PF of the future (Lee) and we get out from under the Jeffries contract. They also save about 4.5 mil in salary + luxury tax from this year?s cap.
i'd prefer getting that number 1 back, i think jeffries isn't as difficult to get rid of as some might think.
I mean the thing with Jeffries is we have to trade him to a team not looking to buy into the free agent market in 2010.
hahahahahh
Utah giving us carlos booozer for jefferies and Leee hahahah
thats comedy right there.
DLee and Boozer getting swapped is laughable? It?s common knowledge that Boozer is a better player than Lee, but you?re post implies that they shouldn?t even be compared with eachother.
Why do you think they?re not comparable? Lee put up 16 and 12 last year. He led the NBA in double doubles last year. He did so while shooting an impressive 55% from the field.
Everyone knows Boozer has the better resume and plays better interior defense, but neither guy blocks shots. I question you?re knowledge when you imply that these two players shouldn?t be mentioned in the same breath.
Maybe you were so impressed with Boozer?s knee surgery last season that limited him to 37 games... LOL
Maybe you don?t realize that uneven trades happen in the NBA all the time, because of the business side of the sport. Did you forget that just recently a still highly productive Shaquille O'Neal (future hall of famer and current NBA all star) got traded to the Cavs for bench warmer Sasha Pavlovic and washed up Ben Wallace who is talking RETIREMENT.
LOL
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yeah exactly they shouldnt be compared together
boozer has been consistently better coached by the same hall of famer for a few years,
boozer has been on a winning playoff team that went to the eastern conference finals two years ago
boozer is a bonafied all star big in the western conference
boozer has been a consistent top ten rebounder his entire career
boozer plays defense
boozer hits mid range jumpers with consistency
boozer passes out of double teams
boozer has been starting material since his first nba game
boozer put up DLEE numbers in his second season as a pro
boozer put up 20 pnts just under 14 rebs a game against the lakers bynum and gasol this post season
boozer is only a year and a half older than lee
boozer has avg a steal per game for the past 3 seasons
boozers career playoff avgs are 20 and 12 in 34 games
DLEE
well basically he has done none of that.
end of story,
Maybe you don?t realize that uneven trades happen in the NBA all the time, because of the business side of the sport. Did you forget that just recently a still highly productive Shaquille O'Neal (future hall of famer and current NBA all star) got traded to the Cavs for bench warmer Sasha Pavlovic and washed up Ben Wallace who is talking RETIREMENT.
Thank you Captain Obvious for dramatically explaining what I have already stated. My exact quote was: "It?s common knowledge that Boozer is a better player than Lee."
The fact that you ignorantly scoffed at the idea that they could be traded for each other, shows that you know jack sh*t about the business side of basketball. I have news for you: Lebron is not king, the salary cap is. Sometimes the talent matches up in a trade, and sometimes it doesn't, but the salaries match up for cap purposes. I'm surprised that you don't know this by now.
You scoff at the idea of a Lee/Jeffries for Boozer deal, yet you conveniantly didn't respond to this part of my post:
I'll start taking you seriously when you finally study this: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
Until then, enjoy being "Captain Obvious".
hahahahahh
Utah giving us carlos booozer for jefferies and Leee hahahah
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you did!? damn, i gotta look at that post again.that shit musta been hilarious!Heah, I got a good laugh too...not gonna happen!
Heah, I got a good laugh too...not gonna happen!
</P>He needs to up his game just a hair and he can be an elite player. http://www.knicksonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=86577#post86577
can you say just a hair again.