When did Riley and Van Gundy consistently bash his star players until the point he was provoked into a negative response?
Riley and VanGundy, both when they were Knicks coaches, called out everyone at one time or another, to step up their game in the press. Both guys, when they coached the Knicks, have said negative things about the team to press and on radio talk shows.
There has to be some truth to it...these allegations might be the reason he won't get paid his full contract. And LB didn't take complete blame either?! When somebody spills the milk it's always no one's fault...even when you are 65+ years old
From what I understand, coaches talking to other teams personel about possible deals is not that uncommon. I heard that on The Mike and The Mad Dog show on air in NYC. That is where I got that information from. Also, yes Brown has to take some of the blame, I never said he wasn't accountable at all. My argument has always been that you guys seem to give the players a free pass and they are to blame as well. We all have seen in every sport that a digruntled player can make hell for his team. The Knicks orginazation did a poor job in supporting Larry Brown and letting the players know that he iss the boss and they need to listen to him or they will be shipped out to Atlanta or Portland as a punishment (lol). Really, they should have gotten LB's back. Again, he never found a formula that worked for him, and he experimented way too many times.
He had the whole training camp and preseason to get to know his players...NO EXCUSES
He did and he started the season with a set lineup. He made changes after they couldn't pull out a win within the first few weeks of the season.
why would you argue with your GM and Owner? Is that the right thing to do? Is that what a hall of fame coach would do? He needs to ask himself...what would jesus do fo real because that was childish. And So you don't believe a lineup such as PG Starbury SG Crawford SF Q-Rich PF Frye or Rose C Eddy Curry... is talented? hmmmm
I am not sure he did argue all the time with them, again that is what they are saying. Brown has a rep for being a tuff stubborn guy! Isiah knew that when he hired him. Isiah knew that he was tuff on his guys and didn't play rookies alot. This is not breaking news people, he is know for this. Brown is old school and he is set in his ways. Again, Isiah knew all of this and hired him. You can not bring in a guy knowing his ways and then complain when he acts like himself. Isiah is protecting Isiah. Brown, sat in a meeting with them and basicallly told the Knicks orginization that this roster will never go anywhere and if they wanted him to bring NY back to respectability, there needed to be a major roster revamp! You know what.... He is 100% right! PG Starbury SG Crawford SF Q-Rich PF Frye or Rose C Eddy Curry are all talented players but togther on the same roster they STINK!!!! Break them up and scatter them on different teams they will add to that roster. Frye, is still developing so he gets time to prove himself as well as Lee, Nate and the new rookies. Curry has to step up this year and start to be a force in the middle. If he has another sub par year he is a total bust! Crawford would be great with a run and gun team. If the Knicks turn into that (and God I hope not), he would fit. But you are forgetting that Frances will start not Crawford. Marbury..... Read all my posts since I joined this Forum. If Marbury was being paid 4-5 million a year, I would love him. He would be my sixth man. I would bring him off the bench with his energy and drive and start him at the 2 for some matchups. If he had a much lower salary, evey team would want him. Q-rich is another player that should come off the bench at this point in his career. At times he is tremendous but then his back acts up and he is a different player. J Rose will be traded.
Oh, you forgot to mention the other super stars that Isiah picked up:
Malik Rose, that dominate power forward that scares ever team when he rolls into town.
Taylor, that versital scorer that can break down a D and cause havok in the paint.
J James, that killer center who come into the game and bangs the boards and blocks shots.
Q Woods (if he comes back), the Knicks answer to their prayers for a 3.