Stop kidding yourselves...

GeseStark

Benchwarmer
Yeah I know about 94..But the rest of the knicks did not show up at game 7 as well. But what can you do.. I don't want to make excuses for the knicks. I'm not going to say well they ran out of gas like all these commentators .That's what you get Paid Big Money for. Now Amar'e and felton Have an excuse, They basically been carrying this Team, and playing crazy minutes. But galli Has a good half, And than he disappears ?
This team just dosen't have alot of depth, and I'm just afraid that if Amar'e is tired. and can't played too many minutes, this team will lose big.
They have alot of good teams coming up in there schedule there is no way they are going to beat the spurs or dallas or lakers I'm not even sure they could beat oklahoma. I wish I was wrong, But that's the way it is. We just need a deeper better bench and players who can help stoudamire out . And we need a W badly tomorrow before we become a joke again.:gony:
 

la2ny

Starter
And here comes the bullshit lead by yours truly, Chris Sheridan

NEW YORK -- Whether it was truly a test or merely a pop quiz -- depending on which member of the New York Knicks you spoke to, you heard both descriptions -- the grade they received was no higher than a D.


If they gave D-minuses or F-pluses, those might be more apt.


The Knicks came crashing back to reality on a Friday night at Madison Square Garden that was a tale of two halves: a first half in which the building rocked and partied like it hadn't since 1999, and a second half that looked all too much like what a majority of the games over the past decade have looked like -- not even worth staying until the end.


The exit ramps and stairwells were a stream of humanity with three minutes left in the fourth quarter of what ended up as a 113-91 loss to the Miami Heat, the reality of how good these Knicks truly are -- and how far they still have to go to compete with the NBA's best -- hitting the home team and the home fans over the head like an anvil dropped from six stories above.
When the Heat wanted to keep the ball out of Amare Stoudemire's hands, they did. When Miami forced he ball out of Raymond Felton's hands, he didn't get it back. When the fatigue of trying to defend LeBron James caught up with Danilo Gallinari in the third quarter, he was done.


And so were the Knicks after that fateful period, when Miami outscored New York 33-17 to turn a game that was tied at halftime into the 10th double-digit blowout the Heat have had in their past 11 games -- all of them victories.


Simply put, there was only one elite team -- and that team sent a resounding message to a Knicks squad that had quickly come to the false belief over the course of accumulating 13 wins in their past 15 games that they could compete with anybody. Coach Mike D'Antoni even used those exact words prior to the game in assessing the relative strength of his team.


But when the Heat focused their minds on keeping the Knicks from dictating the pace and tempo of the game, the Knicks had no viable Plan B.


"Our guys have a lot of pride on that end of the floor. We did not feel good coming into halftime about giving up that many easy shots," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said of his team's defense. "They got into a great rhythm, and you've got to give them credit -- they are a tough team to defend. But in the second half we got back to doing what we do, and we understand what our identity is and settled into our game."


This loss was so much more painful to the Knicks than the one they endured two nights earlier, when they led for most of the game against the Boston Celtics and put up 116 points on the NBA's No. 1 defense but lost by two points.


This one was so much more demoralizing because it marked the first time in a month that the Knicks were dominated so decisively, letting a close game slip out of their hands over the course of just 10 minutes.


When the third quarter began, it was 57-57. But when James hit a pull-up 20 footer for his ninth and 10th points of a period in which he would score 14 (on his way to a triple-double of 32 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists), the Heat's lead was up to 18 and the energy that had infused the building in the first half was sucked dry.
"I was worried about that emotional letdown. Once we lost it, we couldn't get it back," D'Antoni said. "It's just where we are right now, and we will have to get better and we will. We did run out of some steam."


So the Knicks are three games into an eight-game stretch in which seven matchups will be against truly elite teams, and New York has a 1-2 record to show for it. Their only gimme comes Saturday night in Cleveland against a Cavs team that has lost 10 straight -- but it isn't going to be a gimme if the bad karma that deadened the Garden in the second half can't be shaken off in less than 24 hours.


After the Cleveland game, New York finishes the month with games against the Thunder, Bulls, Heat and Magic -- a series of pop quizzes and/or tests that will go a long way toward determining whether they Knicks are still one superstar (Carmelo Anthony) away from being able to compete with the best, or whether the improvement they had shown over the preceding three weeks can somehow be recaptured and reincorporated into their game.


By Jan. 1, an accurate reading on how good they are can better be made.


"It's been a long week, and in this game we didn't run in the second half like we normally do," said Stoudemire, who scored 24, ending his streak of 30-point games at nine. "We understand we're not far away, but we have to improve.


"We understand that now. Playing these guys was a learning lesson for us. We've got to learn from this game," Stoudemire said. "I think Boston's the team to get through right now, but Miami's playing well. They've got three good scorers, but again, we're right there. It's a matter of us getting better defensively."
Right there?


Sorry, Amare. You were right there two nights earlier against Boston, but you certainly weren't Friday night against the Heat.


Again, this was either going to end up being the "Dream Week" some were touting it as or the "Reality Check Week" that others warned about.


The latter title certainly seems more fitting.


And if the reality checks continue to keep coming over the rest of December, the Knicks are either going to decide they can live with being the fourth- or fifth-best team in the conference, or they can ramp up their efforts to acquire that second superstar player that could elevate them to the elite.


Right now, they are only e-lite (pronounced ee-light). And as we saw Friday night, ee-light is nowhere near the level of the legitimately elite.


We never were "elite" so wtf is he talking about
 

GeseStark

Benchwarmer
And here comes the bullshit lead by yours truly, Chris Sheridan

NEW YORK -- Whether it was truly a test or merely a pop quiz -- depending on which member of the New York Knicks you spoke to, you heard both descriptions -- the grade they received was no higher than a D.


If they gave D-minuses or F-pluses, those might be more apt.


The Knicks came crashing back to reality on a Friday night at Madison Square Garden that was a tale of two halves: a first half in which the building rocked and partied like it hadn't since 1999, and a second half that looked all too much like what a majority of the games over the past decade have looked like -- not even worth staying until the end.


The exit ramps and stairwells were a stream of humanity with three minutes left in the fourth quarter of what ended up as a 113-91 loss to the Miami Heat, the reality of how good these Knicks truly are -- and how far they still have to go to compete with the NBA's best -- hitting the home team and the home fans over the head like an anvil dropped from six stories above.
When the Heat wanted to keep the ball out of Amare Stoudemire's hands, they did. When Miami forced he ball out of Raymond Felton's hands, he didn't get it back. When the fatigue of trying to defend LeBron James caught up with Danilo Gallinari in the third quarter, he was done.


And so were the Knicks after that fateful period, when Miami outscored New York 33-17 to turn a game that was tied at halftime into the 10th double-digit blowout the Heat have had in their past 11 games -- all of them victories.


Simply put, there was only one elite team -- and that team sent a resounding message to a Knicks squad that had quickly come to the false belief over the course of accumulating 13 wins in their past 15 games that they could compete with anybody. Coach Mike D'Antoni even used those exact words prior to the game in assessing the relative strength of his team.


But when the Heat focused their minds on keeping the Knicks from dictating the pace and tempo of the game, the Knicks had no viable Plan B.


"Our guys have a lot of pride on that end of the floor. We did not feel good coming into halftime about giving up that many easy shots," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said of his team's defense. "They got into a great rhythm, and you've got to give them credit -- they are a tough team to defend. But in the second half we got back to doing what we do, and we understand what our identity is and settled into our game."


This loss was so much more painful to the Knicks than the one they endured two nights earlier, when they led for most of the game against the Boston Celtics and put up 116 points on the NBA's No. 1 defense but lost by two points.


This one was so much more demoralizing because it marked the first time in a month that the Knicks were dominated so decisively, letting a close game slip out of their hands over the course of just 10 minutes.


When the third quarter began, it was 57-57. But when James hit a pull-up 20 footer for his ninth and 10th points of a period in which he would score 14 (on his way to a triple-double of 32 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists), the Heat's lead was up to 18 and the energy that had infused the building in the first half was sucked dry.
"I was worried about that emotional letdown. Once we lost it, we couldn't get it back," D'Antoni said. "It's just where we are right now, and we will have to get better and we will. We did run out of some steam."


So the Knicks are three games into an eight-game stretch in which seven matchups will be against truly elite teams, and New York has a 1-2 record to show for it. Their only gimme comes Saturday night in Cleveland against a Cavs team that has lost 10 straight -- but it isn't going to be a gimme if the bad karma that deadened the Garden in the second half can't be shaken off in less than 24 hours.


After the Cleveland game, New York finishes the month with games against the Thunder, Bulls, Heat and Magic -- a series of pop quizzes and/or tests that will go a long way toward determining whether they Knicks are still one superstar (Carmelo Anthony) away from being able to compete with the best, or whether the improvement they had shown over the preceding three weeks can somehow be recaptured and reincorporated into their game.


By Jan. 1, an accurate reading on how good they are can better be made.


"It's been a long week, and in this game we didn't run in the second half like we normally do," said Stoudemire, who scored 24, ending his streak of 30-point games at nine. "We understand we're not far away, but we have to improve.


"We understand that now. Playing these guys was a learning lesson for us. We've got to learn from this game," Stoudemire said. "I think Boston's the team to get through right now, but Miami's playing well. They've got three good scorers, but again, we're right there. It's a matter of us getting better defensively."
Right there?


Sorry, Amare. You were right there two nights earlier against Boston, but you certainly weren't Friday night against the Heat.


Again, this was either going to end up being the "Dream Week" some were touting it as or the "Reality Check Week" that others warned about.


The latter title certainly seems more fitting.


And if the reality checks continue to keep coming over the rest of December, the Knicks are either going to decide they can live with being the fourth- or fifth-best team in the conference, or they can ramp up their efforts to acquire that second superstar player that could elevate them to the elite.


Right now, they are only e-lite (pronounced ee-light). And as we saw Friday night, ee-light is nowhere near the level of the legitimately elite.


We never were "elite" so wtf is he talking about

Yup..hear we go with the Media critics. it's already starting. They'll hype you up when your winning, and throw you in the Garbage when you lose.
 

LOIOSH30

Benchwarmer
I love how nobody talks about the fact that the Knicks are a VERY young team. These type of games happen to young teams all the time...Think about the Thunder in 09-10, they finished well above 500 but had a good amount of games where they got stomped like this...
 
I know Donnie aint finished, but these are teams we cant contend with presently constituted. Need Melo, and thats pretty much it. Yes size, backup pg will help, but more than anything a second option.
 

hometheaterguy

Knicks Guru
I know Donnie aint finished, but these are teams we cant contend with presently constituted. Need Melo, and thats pretty much it. Yes size, backup pg will help, but more than anything a second option.

We are close, maybe Melo is the answer... Only time will tell but we need another big to help Amare and we need another 3 point sharp shooter!
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Funny Thread..... Melo

The Miami Heat respected Amare "Super-Star-status" by double & tripple
teaming Amare.
The Knicks had no respect for any of the Heats Big-3 Super-Star status,
the Knicks played a one on one defensive-zone for 41 minutes.

The Knicks came back from a 13 point deficit while Amare & Felton
were on the bench.

The Knicks 2nd half plan was "give the ball to Amare".
The Heat 2nd half plan was to let Amare get the ball, then tripple team Amare.
Did Amare pass the ball when tripple team?
Do Melo pass the ball when double team?
Knick player ask, "coach what should we do on this defensive play?"
Coach says, "how many times must I repeat myself, just give the ball to Amare or Carmelo.".

:smokin: :gony: :smokin:
 

knickzrulezH20

Sexy Stud
Funny Thread..... Melo

The Miami Heat respected Amare "Super-Star-status" by double & tripple
teaming Amare.
The Knicks had no respect for any of the Heats Big-3 Super-Star status,
the Knicks played a one on one defensive-zone for 41 minutes.

The Knicks came back from a 13 point deficit while Amare & Felton
were on the bench.

The Knicks 2nd half plan was "give the ball to Amare".
The Heat 2nd half plan was to let Amare get the ball, then tripple team Amare.
Did Amare pass the ball when tripple team?
Do Melo pass the ball when double team?
Knick player ask, "coach what should we do on this defensive play?"
Coach says, "how many times must I repeat myself, just give the ball to Amare or Carmelo.".

:smokin: :gony: :smokin:

Back after a 2 game losing streak. Figures
 
There should be a vaccination for this Knicks sickness. We want to win so bad that sometimes we become blind optimistics when they are winning games. But as soon as we start playing some real teams...we realize that we have once again fell under the spell. Talk about being In dying need of a cure...the passion we fans have for this team will kill us if they don't right this sinking ship.
 
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