CA7
Scoring Champ
I think both can be 25 and 10 guys with the right system, I pray Woodson is working on some sets to run to maximize our Stars like how Miami and OKC play through their stars and the role players just find their spots
Why so much hate for Carmelo?
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I think both can be 25 and 10 guys with the right system, I pray Woodson is working on some sets to run to maximize our Stars like how Miami and OKC play through their stars and the role players just find their spots
The thing is we were a lottery team before Linsanity happened.
With that said the east should be weaker next year especially with Orlando losing Howard at some point. I think we definitely need to improve our backcourt though. Right now our starting backcourt guards both shot 40% last year and J Kidd shot 35%.
CA7
Scoring Champ
remember both STAT and Melo were never on top defensive units
more stops means more rebounds when I say 25 and 10 thats max
Melo will likely score more this year 28-29 ppg and STAT should be at 24 and both should always be near 7-12 rebounds a game
Anything less is unacceptable, not only do I want wins but I want STAT and Melo doing work in those games, games where both score 40, Melo with a 50 pt game, STAT with a 20/20 game, Melo triple-doubles and just epic performances
I'm hyped for this upcoming season as long as we dont discuss Lin all year
NY17KNICKS
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BYE BITCH :teeth:
CA7
Scoring Champ
the elbow and the knee he lacked lift and fluidity on his jump shot
hopefully he continues to slim to push less pressure on his legs and he can jump higher and quicker to help him out
STAT1
Starter
I'll settle for 24 / 7 out of Melo & 17 / 10 out of STAT, as long as their team dynamic & chemistry is better than last year when they played together. I think STAT's best days are behind him, he's on the decline. Hopefully Felton can get him some easier baskets in the PnR like he was doing when they played together last time. I think STAT just needs to accept the fact that he's no longer the man on this team offensively & just resign himself to playing more defense & focus on rebounding. If he does that it will go a long way in creating a better team dynamic this season.
Regarding Lin, I think if we had matched that crazy contract then there would definitely have been some jealousy issues in the lockerroom, & you never want that. These guys are human afterall & no one wants to be paid 10 times less than the other guy even though you're putting in the same hours in practice & in games. Regardless if that's justified or not since Lin brings fans to the games & others may not, the fact remains guys would have had problems with him simply because of how much money he was going to make, & that is never good to have if you're trying to build team chemistry.
orangeblobman
Rotation player
You don't see how, if the scenario you describe held true, the problem would be with the jealous players and not Jeremy Lin?
It's not Jeremy Lin's fault he is worth 25$million on the market, but it is the fault of the jealous players for reacting like petulant boys.
Going by Carmelo's statements about Houston's Lin offer, I would say he has a major character flaw that doesn't allow him to be happy for another Man, and that this jealous streak in Carmelo is just one visible chink in the armor in a personality of a perennial loser.
STAT1
Starter
I didn't say it would have been Lin's fault, I'm telling it like it is. Regardless if it's justified or not, there would have been jealousy & that's never good when you're trying to build team chemistry. & This is not just from Melo, it would have been from other guys on the team like STAT, JR & maybe others. The only guys I can imagine who wouldn't have been bothered by it would be guys like Tyson Chandler & Steve Novak (other than the end of the bench scrubs).
orangeblobman
Rotation player
Eh..I don't think it would have come from Amar'e!
It's the usual suspects, Melo and JR, they are the two guys that dominate the culture of the team now.
But that just highlights the problem with the roster, the fact that we are even talking about something like this tells me that we are not in a good situation. I mean, when jealousy is a real concern, there's something wrong.
STAT1
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I think STAT was plenty jealous of Melo taking over last season, not sure why you would think he'd be above any of the pettiness.
The fact remains there's always going to be jealousy inside a lockerroom. I think bringing in Jason Kidd was a huge move for the Knicks to provide some good veteran leadership (well on the basketball court cuz he's obviously got issues of his own to deal with outside of the lockerroom), because Tyson Chandler could not do it all on his own. STAT & Melo both need to grow up & learn how to be teammates & be able to put their egos aside for the good of the team. This is what Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce & Ray Allen did in Boston & it's what Lebron, Wade & Bosh did in Miami. Both teams won a championship. The Knicks have not yet figured this out.
Lin's contract would have added just another issue for them to squabble about internally. It could be better for us that he left, as difficult a pill as it is to swallow right now. Eventually I just get the feeling that the constant media attention being focused solely on Lin whenever the Knicks won would have become an even bigger issue down the road.
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KnickolasMGL
Benchwarmer
u summed it up pretty well,
it's all about styles and preferences among fans of different styles and eras etc.
other dudes need to stop with the race crap,
criticizing an asian player like Lin is not being racist if it's objective,
and the same thing goes for criticizing a black player like Melo,
come on NYK fans, yous are smarter than that
STAT1
Starter
Don't want to turn this into a race discussion, but there are a good # of Knicks fans out there that are throwing around the "c" word at Lin because they're angry at him that he chose to sign that offer sheet. That kinda stuff really makes me question the intelligence of people nowadays. No matter what you feel about Lin's decision, it never justifies throwing racial epithets at a guy for making a business decision for himself & his family. People need to get a life & stop being so angry.
Crazy⑧s
Evacuee
Absolutely. It's f'ing preposterous.
What happened happened. Let everyone move on and have some contentment. Can't change the call after the whistle's been blown.
WOW before 2010..We beg for Star..now people say Melo..
Isn't a Supserstar...LOL He was when he scored 50 pts on Knicks in Denver..but we crying for Lin that wasn't gonna put same results in NON MIke Pringles Dantio system... Melo All-Star...Most fear Scorer in the league..Here a Hint..Most GIfted Scorers Don't LOCK DOWN on Defense that why you Build around his scoring...MJ had Pippen...Magic had Cooper.. Isiah had DUmars.... that the recipe...Non of those team built around LImited Guard ...Melo will be fine the Key is Stat to be healthy n get on DAMN BOX and BOX Out...
Isn't a Supserstar...LOL He was when he scored 50 pts on Knicks in Denver..but we crying for Lin that wasn't gonna put same results in NON MIke Pringles Dantio system... Melo All-Star...Most fear Scorer in the league..Here a Hint..Most GIfted Scorers Don't LOCK DOWN on Defense that why you Build around his scoring...MJ had Pippen...Magic had Cooper.. Isiah had DUmars.... that the recipe...Non of those team built around LImited Guard ...Melo will be fine the Key is Stat to be healthy n get on DAMN BOX and BOX Out...
jimkcchief88
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