jzero29
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the point of saying we're overpaying for him, means I wouldn't sign, walk away
Oh stoudemire was 5yr/96 I think its starts at 16.8 or something and increases each yr, like an anual raise.
the signing of felton makes us a playoff team for the next couple years, I think rindour would have also. Reguardless of if we get carmelo or not. The addition of carmelo, makes us more competition, we'd still need a PG better then felton to get to level of miami, I don't want to build a team thats a punching bag for Miami, I want to stick it in lebrons face when we beat them. Amare, carmelo and an grade A PG
My assesment is correct, market wise he had avg numbers last year, everyone is basing it on potential which is unknown. You can put any decent pg in this system and his numbers should rise. Rindour included. pay him what he's produced, don't sign him unproven to a huge undeserved contract that your stuck with. You have to evaluate honestly what he's worth, because you won't be able to move him if you over pay him. or don't sign him at all. give him a reasonable offer of about 5.5mill leave it on the table, when no one else overpays, he'll come knocking. if not let someone else over pay him.We could have gotten him for 5.5 or 6 is overpaying for an avg point guard, who has okay numbers, has not played recently in this system.
Be careful with your assessment of Felton. I don't think he's an average point guard. I think he's a dynamic guard that has been stiffled while playing for Larry Brown. Remember he also shared time with another promising PG on the Bobcats by the name of DJ Augustin. Like others have said he will have much more freedom with coach D. He will be unleashed!
my point is we're overpaying and I'd rather not overpay. he's not worth the money. It's like going to the a farmer market and the guy tries to sell you a tomato for almost double your local supermarket, true it's a little better then your local supermarket tomato, but in the salad the tomato, you can barely tell the difference, so you know it's not worth the money and if you buy it your over paying, it is not inane, he's overpaid and I'd rather not lock into that at all. I'd just go buy at my local market, thats what my grip is. Don't overpay, if you can't get him for 5.5 then walk away. Rindour probably would take about 3.5-4mill a season for similar result, rindour is the bargan. the next text below says, uses stats that i dont believe in, but he says felton was worth 6.5 wins for charlotte rindour 6.2 for bucks, not much a difference, except for price tag. I think felton will get us about 4 more wins then rindour would have, and I'd rather have not over paid him therefore not signed him. It is my fault for being unclear. He is the better player, but Instead of overpaying him, I would have signed someone else for what they are worth. If I can't get the slightly better tomato for slightly more then I would get regular tomato, I wouldn't buy it. Why pay almost double for a slight difference.Sighs.
No. We couldn't have gotten Felton for a better price.
In part this is the predictable response to us megawhiffing in the LeBastard saga. Prices will go up for u (than they otherwise may have been). But it isn't fair or unfair, and it's not overpaying or underpaying either way.
Talking about getting him for less is inane.
Talking about --not-- getting him. Period. Is not inane, though, and I agree with a lot of the anti-Felton points.
Also, isn't Amare getting 5yr/100M (not 17M/yr)? But I guess it's weighted and scaled through the years(?)
It's all about Carmelo now, as some have hinted and surmised. Our team truly is primed to take him on and swiftly be a young juggernaut added to the elite creme of the NBA, most of whom look to be staying at their lofty positions for a while.
Not-so-bold estimation: airball Carmelo now and we're a playoff kick toy for quite some time (barring an absolute explosion of both Gallo and Randolph)
Still, Felton could be a wise investment for sure. Carolina who got him to be a top5 draft pick was an uptempo court system. Larry brown's stifles his main attributes; maybe helps rest of team, but stifles this mans game. D'ant has d'ant players to mold into his coaching--Raymond will notably be included.
Anyways, Tyrus just signed for 8M/5yr -- with the Cats -- so we can take that for what it's worth.
And wow. Megawhiffing in the last draft in securing the 1's available really biting us hard. Has made so many things so much more tricky. Ce la vie.
Oh stoudemire was 5yr/96 I think its starts at 16.8 or something and increases each yr, like an anual raise.
the signing of felton makes us a playoff team for the next couple years, I think rindour would have also. Reguardless of if we get carmelo or not. The addition of carmelo, makes us more competition, we'd still need a PG better then felton to get to level of miami, I don't want to build a team thats a punching bag for Miami, I want to stick it in lebrons face when we beat them. Amare, carmelo and an grade A PG
I've heard his shooting is pretty good, but thats larry brown making him be more selective, once that discipline is gone...he maybe Meh, but if he takes 20 shots per game like crawford, he'll score a little more to make up for lower fg%. I basically agree with the stats 6.5 and 6.2 for felton and rindour. I do think felton would be more sucessful in this system then rindour, but I don't think it's worth it and would not have signed him for 7mill per. Definetly 5, okay 5.5, maybe 6. No one else would have given him 6. with his avg numbers. It is a privillage to play in this city, If you want to go play somewhere else good luck. We should only offer players what they are worth, if we lose out on an avg player, who will put up slightly above avg numbers for us, but not quite all star numbers. it's a waste!According to Basketball reference, Raymond Felton was worth approximately 6.5 wins to the Charlotta bobkittens last year. Rinour was worth 6.2 to MIL, and Toney Douglas was worth 2.2, but of course he didn't get much playing time. Duhon was less than him btw.
I'm hoping this contract is less than 7 million a year cause then we are overpaying.
I've heard great things about this guy, his shooting ability is meh, and I think his assist numbers will rise. Remember, Brown is the Anti'Dantoni. A PG's numbers go down when he's playing in Browns system, whereas they go up in our system. And I hear Felt can hit shots in the clutch. Which is what we lacked since we rid ourselves of Crawford.
Good acquisition as long as we didn't overpay and we still have money for a max or somewhere close next year.
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