Yes the distinction is paramount if you are debating a moron who does not understand the difference. I am certainly not a moron and certainly understand the difference. My point is that you are wrong...D'ant does coach and teach defense. It started long before Billiups and Melo too. Click on the link and below and watch the video and I dare you to tell me he does not care, coach or teach defense:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xft592_mike-d-antoni-mic-d-up-at-training-camp-part-2-10-20_sport
Check mate!
Sorry but you are spinning now. You created a thread 8 games into the season and basically concluded we were going to have another losing year and your "VERDICT" was in. Well, your verdict was wrong and the Knicks are overachieving beyond where you concluded so shortly into the season. You talk about mediocrity as if D'ant had a complete roster capable of being better than the 6th seed. Really? We had and may still have a factually worse roster than the top 4 teams in the East. Even the Hawks who are the 5th seed(ahead of us by only a few games) had a better, more complete roster with a team that has been together for years. They did not have to learn to play with one another and were able to get out of the gate running yet we are right behind them. That is not mediocrity, that is exactly where our talent dictated! Again, had someone said in your Verdict thread that the Knicks will have a winning record and be the 6th seed you would have called them crazy.
BTW, what happened to:
Oops!
This quote of yours is great for a few reasons:
1. You claim no one respects me yet here you are stating that you respect me.
2. The multitude of threads you yourself started since the above quote contridicts your view that there are too many Fire D'ant threads and your willingness to wait for the results.
3. You have since flamed me when i respond on topic to you with emotional outbursts yet in that quote you are claiming to be above it.
If you were open minded and objective you would have followed your own words in the above quote but you clearly didn't.
you parrot the hate from the likes of Charles Barkley. I'm sorry if you sound like one of the typical ESPN/TNT Knicks haters when it comes to our coach.
Maybe you need specifics. Don't you understand every single coach probably covers defense one way or another? I'm sure you do because you said of course D'Ant cares about defense etc... most coaches preach, talk, draw up, go over etc...
But you have not extrapolated the actual point:
EFFECTIVENESS!!!
Really i'm surprised at a few things.
1. That you have yet to understand whatever approach MDA uses it hasn't translated into results and positive impact defensively. As if a video showing coach talking defense refutes this. Its mind boggling.
2. That you thought anyone would be satisfed with being near last in the league in defense.
3. That you believe "proof" is needed that illustrates how an uptempo style affects defense. Really? I and others have used logic, reasoning, and a slew of examples of taking such approach. Not to mention the stats. Isn't the proof in the pudding? Are allthe writers, coaches, players etc... wrong. Really, you figured something out that no one hasn't... really? Wow!
That's the basis of ignorance. Your perception has become yur reality. Altering your perception to fit your fellings. No is saying you can't like coach, but how can you call yourself objecive when you can't admit the obvious?
MDA's weak points include defense, exacerbated by his offensive philosophy. There are many many unintended consequences that have been listed and observed and you claim a video proves this wrong. Smh.
Again, my verdict was accurate as far as I'm concerned. I saw nothing at that time that was different than the past, and I still see a lack of coaching effectiveness defensively, most likely due to the overall approach. And the stats say this as well as logic.
And don't spin my opinion, I'm not saying to fire MDA. But I know a spade when I see one. If coach can't adapt and learn to alter his style to incorporate better defensive strategy he will continue to be trumpt by those who do.
Are you disputing that verdict? Just as there is no video "proof" (just a perponderence of evidence) that running and chucking has many negative effects over the course of time, some not so apparent-
You should provide video proof that it does work and there are no ancillary negative impacts of ssol. where's that proof? Huh, where's that video? Where's the quotes
Of valid professional opinions and analysis that supports your stance like we have provided? That counter years of analysis and observation by professionals as well as statistical metrics?
Your little video won't cut it. MDA's quotes won't cut it. Here in NY we need results.
Like with a girlfriend... you think saying you love her is enough or you think showing her is better? If she asked you t show he your love and prove it that a video of you saying so will cut it?
Actions and words. Your full of words, we are detailing actions and results. Results, results, results!!!
Until you show some proof that your stance is correct you min as well be that stubborn kid refusing to accept the truth standing vehemently with your fingers in your ear.
With 2max's MDA will be blamed if we fail, accept it. No more excuses. All your assertions will be tested. And on video just for you.