Game Thread: New York Knicks vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2014/12/04)

skisloper

Starter
Carmelo takes 19 shots. Amare shoots the ball 13 times. They both play 30 minutes. Knicks are playing a home game. Guess what? Combined... Our nearly 45 million duo are awarded TWO free throw attempts. 2!

Somehow, Cavs come to MSG and get 26 FT shots to our 6 attempts. An absolute joke.

Varejo clearly swiped at and fouled Amare on his dunk down the stretch. No call. But then Varejo gets sent to FT line when he wasn't touched.

All of this is expected tho... But to call that travel on Melo was a pathetic excuse for a call. How do you make that call? That was after a few offensive calls on us too.

i want us to finish 4-78, so I am cool. But something must be done. Refs continually screw Dolan's knicks on a nightly basis at MSG.

Thank you Shump. Great defense on that final possession. Way to let Irving blow right by you for a layup. And, plz... Pass the ball Melo. You were missing layups... You were 4-19 from the floor... Noboby on Earth wants to see you go 1-on-1 with best bball player on the planet, only to hoist up a terrible, desperation three point clanker.


Shump/JR must be packaged.....I love Shump but cannot watch our defensive specialist can fooled so easily by Kyrie........

And that was a travel on Melo he took 3 steps.........

Hard to complain about calls when we do not drive the ball enough.....

Lets hope we see some moves soon....would love to see JR off the books and us a lottery team
 

tiger0330

Legend
I'm officially in the "Don't score for Okafor" camp. Calderon has been back for 7 games and we now have a 6 game losing streak, he is not the savior. We may be in for another decade of losing basketball with this team with a lack of draft picks and a woeful roster. This team needs to be built from the ground up, maybe it should have started this season by letting Melo go in FA.

The more I see of him the more I believe he's not the guy you want to build your team around to win a ring. He's not clutch, he's an average defender and he's on the wrong side of 30.
 
Shump/JR must be packaged.....I love Shump but cannot watch our defensive specialist can fooled so easily by Kyrie........

And that was a travel on Melo he took 3 steps.........

Hard to complain about calls when we do not drive the ball enough.....

Lets hope we see some moves soon....would love to see JR off the books and us a lottery team

Irving did blow by Shump, but if you watch the replay of that game winning play by Cleveland, Lebron does a great job sweeping through that side of the court and drawing away any backside help that Shump could expect. On a normal team, a big man is there to help you when you give the ball handler the baseline and often it leads to a defensive stop. Shump's defense is overrated, but not a lot of guys can stop Irving one on one in that kind of space (ignore the fact that Prigioni stripped him twice in a row in the first half)
 

tiger0330

Legend
Irving did blow by Shump, but if you watch the replay of that game winning play by Cleveland, Lebron does a great job sweeping through that side of the court and drawing away any backside help that Shump could expect. On a normal team, a big man is there to help you when you give the ball handler the baseline and often it leads to a defensive stop. Shump's defense is overrated, but not a lot of guys can stop Irving one on one in that kind of space (ignore the fact that Prigioni stripped him twice in a row in the first half)
I agree Kyrie has one of the best crossovers in the NBA, he'll break the ankles of most guys guarding him.

Nice analysis of the play htr10.
 

paris401

Starter
We may be in for another decade of losing basketball with this team with a lack of draft picks and a woeful roster AGREE

This team needs to be built from the ground up, maybe it should have started this season by letting Melo go in FA. AGREE

The more I see of him the more I believe he's not the guy you want to build your team around to win a ring. AGREE

He's not clutch AGREE

he's an average defender AGREE

he's on the wrong side of 30. AGREE

may I say that I AGREE with every point...
 

Scipio

Benchwarmer
Getting `Melo was a big mistake and will hamper this club for years to come. You cannot build a winning team around a selfish player who just wants to shoot and go isolated no matter what.

Where do we go from here? I guess that we just have to hope that we get a great pick in the lottery but having said that with the Knicks record of picking players we could end up with first pick and still decide to pick a terrible player.
 

skisloper

Starter
Irving did blow by Shump, but if you watch the replay of that game winning play by Cleveland, Lebron does a great job sweeping through that side of the court and drawing away any backside help that Shump could expect. On a normal team, a big man is there to help you when you give the ball handler the baseline and often it leads to a defensive stop. Shump's defense is overrated, but not a lot of guys can stop Irving one on one in that kind of space (ignore the fact that Prigioni stripped him twice in a row in the first half)


And Dwayne Wades 4th quarter with Shump guarding him is just another sign Shump is maxed out.....not getting better as his BBALL IQ is just not there.......
 
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