Official Trade Rumors Thread

Bunch of quotes circulating today online about Melo possibly being on the verge of wanting out and that there would absolutely be a small group of interested teams. They quote an unnamed Eastern Conference executive as saying we could get a 1st round pick, a starter, and whoever else is needed to match salaries.

I have less of a problem with Melo than many Knicks fans, but if that is the case, we should make the move this offseason. We need to go full rebuild. New coach, new roster, new draft picks.
 

tiger0330

Legend
Bunch of quotes circulating today online about Melo possibly being on the verge of wanting out and that there would absolutely be a small group of interested teams. They quote an unnamed Eastern Conference executive as saying we could get a 1st round pick, a starter, and whoever else is needed to match salaries.

I have less of a problem with Melo than many Knicks fans, but if that is the case, we should make the move this offseason. We need to go full rebuild. New coach, new roster, new draft picks.
Yeah, I think it's time. Trade him while you can get something for him, such as a good young player like Tobias Harris and a couple of picks. It may be Melo's decision with his no trade clause but PJ needs to initiate the discussion with Melo and tell him I want to take the Knicks in different direction without you.
 

paris401

Starter
as they said in the godfather...if history taught us anything its that anyone can be traded...but his value is getting less and less... most probably we will have to take back 24m (or thereabouts) in salary, and maybe get a 1st rounder... but since a 2nd tier team probably will not want an 'old' Me-Lo , and he would prob nix a trade to such a team, he will be traded to a 1st tier team, and their 1st rounder will be a middle/end of the road pick...BUT.. u never know... that's why we have phil...
 

mafra

Legend
as they said in the godfather...if history taught us anything its that anyone can be traded...but his value is getting less and less... most probably we will have to take back 24m (or thereabouts) in salary, and maybe get a 1st rounder... but since a 2nd tier team probably will not want an 'old' Me-Lo , and he would prob nix a trade to such a team, he will be traded to a 1st tier team, and their 1st rounder will be a middle/end of the road pick...BUT.. u never know... that's why we have phil...

It really depends... Melo will hold out hope to recruit some players this summer. If nobody comes he will agree to let Phil deal him.

It depends where Durant goes too.

But, the most realistic trade is either Melo for Blake Griffin or a 3-way deal between CLE-BOS-NYK. Melo to Cavs, Love to BOS, Sullinger-Turner and draft pick (nets first rounder) to NY.
 

tiger0330

Legend
It really depends... Melo will hold out hope to recruit some players this summer. If nobody comes he will agree to let Phil deal him.

It depends where Durant goes too.

But, the most realistic trade is either Melo for Blake Griffin or a 3-way deal between CLE-BOS-NYK. Melo to Cavs, Love to BOS, Sullinger-Turner and draft pick (nets first rounder) to NY.
I'm pretty sure he would go to Miami also. I wonder if Slick would be interested in Melo if Bosh is forced to retire. Dragic and filler for Melo? Sign Parsons in the off-season.

Dragic
AA
Parsons
KP
Rolo
 

mafra

Legend
I'm pretty sure he would go to Miami also. I wonder if Slick would be interested in Melo if Bosh is forced to retire. Dragic and filler for Melo? Sign Parsons in the off-season.

Dragic
AA
Parsons
KP
Rolo


Imagine if Durant goes to GSW. Lebron throws arms in air and opts out... Goes back to MIA... Heat trade Whiteside (sign and trade) and Winslow to NYK for Melo.

Dragic, Wade, Lebron, Melo, bosh

Vs

curry, Thompson, Andre Iguadala, Durant, and Draymond Green.

NYK have potential dominating defensive front court of future with Whiteside-KP-Winslow
 

paris401

Starter
Imagine if Durant goes to GSW. Lebron throws arms in air and opts out... Goes back to MIA... Heat trade Whiteside (sign and trade) and Winslow to NYK for Melo.

Dragic, Wade, Lebron, Melo, bosh

Vs

curry, Thompson, Andre Iguadala, Durant, and Draymond Green.

NYK have potential dominating defensive front court of future with Whiteside-KP-Winslow

whiteside is a FA, makes 900k, far cry from Me-Lo's 'team-friendly' 24.5m for next year.. sign n trade.. maybe... but if u can sign him as a FA, not sure why u sign/trade... I'm not up to date with the in's/out's of contract's... but that's why we have the zen-master..
 

mafra

Legend
whiteside is a FA, makes 900k, far cry from Me-Lo's 'team-friendly' 24.5m for next year.. sign n trade.. maybe... but if u can sign him as a FA, not sure why u sign/trade... I'm not up to date with the in's/out's of contract's... but that's why we have the zen-master..

Only way for him to get that 5th year is for his team to agree on a sign and trade... But... Yeah... Even with that and Winslow... Probably need a deng or mcroberts to make money work.
 

Broadway

All Star
Knicks preferred to wait a little longer but realized there wasn't 182gms on the schedule to do so





Listen this move has major potential but this kid was waived in December come Phil
 

tiger0330

Legend
Knicks preferred to wait a little longer but realized there wasn't 182gms on the schedule to do so




Listen this move has major potential but this kid was waived in December come Phil

Wroten is one guy I think Rambis will at least give playing time but they have 19 games left and are just starting that WC trip where they're not going to be practicing a lot. Should have signed him over the break instead of bringing up Jimmer. Phil and Mills suck.
 

tiger0330

Legend
I've been saying Rambis was a PJ favorite for the HC job. Rambis has really been vilified though with his 3-7 record, people saying by and large that he's a terrible HC and worse than DFish. Knicks fans should worry if he manages to go 11-8, I think Rambis gets the job if he has the team finish strong.
 

Broadway

All Star
I've been saying Rambis was a PJ favorite for the HC job. Rambis has really been vilified though with his 3-7 record, people saying by and large that he's a terrible HC and worse than DFish. Knicks fans should worry if he manages to go 11-8, I think Rambis gets the job if he has the team finish strong.

The likelihood he goes 11-8 over the last 19 when he's 3-7 over the last 10 leaves no doubt at risk. While style points may have Rambis ahead of Fisher coaching wise.... the standard should never be comparing to someone who was fired but instead by who is most qualified to get the Knicks to the highest level of respectability.

Knick fans always being held hostage with their emotions in that they have to massage and align their inner feelings to what they think the team will do instead of what they should do.
 

Broadway

All Star
Wroten is one guy I think Rambis will at least give playing time but they have 19 games left and are just starting that WC trip where they're not going to be practicing a lot. Should have signed him over the break instead of bringing up Jimmer. Phil and Mills suck.

We can only hope, but this could be another distraction from the overall failure of a season. Hopefully Wroten's career won't be toyed with by us, the kid has talent and could factor heavily next yr. Unfortunately we're arguing over his second yr guaranteed money like we were doing with Galloway, so similar signs of the same-o-same-o.
 
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mafra

Legend
http://nypost.com/2016/03/07/carmelo-begins-rondo-pitch-vows-to-be-knicks-star-recruiter/


DENVER ? Carmelo Anthony didn?t sound like a player ready to ask for a trade, but one eager to recruit free agents this summer and convince point guard Rajon Rondo that this system will work for him.

?Put me at the head of the table and let?s go to work,?? Anthony said about summer free-agent meetings. ?Put me in the board room.??

Back at an old haunt, a practice facility in suburban Denver where he held his Anthony summer camps, the Knicks? embattled star was in a gregarious mood, saying Rondo and former teammate Chauncey Billups are off base in thinking the triangle isn?t good for point guards. Rondo has said he didn?t believe the triangle was for him. Billups told The Post Sunday the Knicks may have trouble recruiting an elite point guard because of the triangle being ?restrictive.?

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?I don?t want to be tampering ? I?ve heard he said he wouldn?t thrive in a system like this,? Anthony said of his fellow Oak Hill Academy alum. ?I think he?d be perfect in a system like this. A system like this fits a guy like that. To have the ball in their hands and be able to run the offense, I think it fits well. I don?t know who?s telling him he don?t fit.

?It is a misconception about that. Some of our keys of offense is penetration, getting in the paint, pushing the pace, transition creating in the paint for bigs. A point guard would love that. It?s a perfect opportunity.?

Last summer, when the Knicks didn?t land a big fish despite $30 million of cap room, Anthony was excluded from free-agent meetings. This time, after another losing season, he plans to be there.

?Phil had it [last year],? Anthony quipped. ?This summer is going to be interesting. I don?t have a choice. If we want this team to be better, we want to add pieces. I don?t have a choice but to go out there and do my job and try to get people to come here so they can see it from my perspective rather than everybody else?s perspective, seeing it from a player?s perspective.?


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Anthony still made phone calls to players such as LaMarcus Aldridge, but the Knicks canceled their meeting when they realized they were all but out of the hunt.

?I did a lot of talking to guys seeing how they felt about the situation and being in this system,? Anthony said. ?There were a lot of people very, very interested.?

Anthony admitted to being ?worried? about the losing, and roster/coaching instability doesn?t help.

?You need to have something to look forward to year in and year out, not always changing everything when something goes bad,? Anthony said. ?The rest of the league sees that. Guys see that, players see that, agents see that. Sometimes it makes it a hard sell, but for the most part, as players, our sources are other players.?

For his part, Knicks interim coach Kurt Rambis believes it?s rubbish to think the triangle isn?t meant for a traditional point guard. Asked about the Rondo/Billups sentiments, Rambis, for fear of tampering, only addressed Billups ? not the Kings stud.

?[Billups] is more a traditional point-guard player,? Rambis said. ?[Chauncey] would have tremendous success within the offense. ? There?s no doubt in my mind. [He] didn?t participate in it, but the way [he] plays, the competitor [Billups] is, he?d fit very well into it.?

Though former coach Derek Fisher recently knocked Rondo as not ?an elite point guard,? it?s known the organization feels Rondo would do well in the triangle.

Interestingly, Anthony credited Rambis for teaching the triangle with more clarity than Fisher.

?I believe we still run the same concepts with Kurt,? Anthony said. ?Nothing to do with Derek, [but] it?s more understanding and being more clear on what we want [with the offense]. With Derek, it was more focus on the defensive end, focusing more on developing Jerian [Grant] and [Kristaps Porzingis]. I actually like that ? two different styles of coaching.??

Anthony is trying to get back to where he was in 2009, when he and Billups advanced the Nuggets to the Western Conference Finals. Billups said he thought that had the club stuck together, it could have won a title.

?That?s something we talk about to this day,? said Anthony, who felt the Nuggets were in rebuilding mode and asked for a trade during the 2010-11 season.

The Anthony-Billups Knicks blockbuster hasn?t worked out well for either team. Anthony isn?t sure how he?ll be received Tuesday ? with his most recent appearance here two years ago.

?A lot of things have changed,? Anthony said.
 

Broadway

All Star
lol @ chasing Rondo again. Melo has headhunted this guy for like 3yrs now and got nothing but crickets especially this past summer. He said he doesn't like this system give it a rest. Gosh this greaseball is annoying
 
Anyone else see posted online that Dwight Howard's 'friends' are starting the rumor he wants to play for the Knicks? Weird.
 

tiger0330

Legend
Anyone else see posted online that Dwight Howard's 'friends' are starting the rumor he wants to play for the Knicks? Weird.
The Knicks don't even have a need for a big man with Rolo and KP on the team and he's a questionable fit for the triangle. Very little chance PJ even talks to him this off season.
 

donchris

Next season, keep waiting
The Knicks don't even have a need for a big man with Rolo and KP on the team and he's a questionable fit for the triangle. Very little chance PJ even talks to him this off season.

I'm not so sure. Phil had a lot of success with Shaq in the triangle. He may think he can duplicate it with Howard.
 
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