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Mafra, scratch Ujiri off the list, Celts got a first for Doc. Toronto sound like they would want that for Ujiri when they say substantial compensation. Toronto signed him to a 4 year extension to be President, they also just made a lot of organizational changes today including promoting from within for the GM position, he's got a sweet job up there, let's see if he even agrees to talk to Dolan. I think I mentioned a 150M 5 year stock and salary package for him to take the job, kidding of course but maybe it's not far from the truth.

TORONTO — The Raptors took care of some long-expected business on Wednesday, even as a loud distraction emanated from Gotham.

Bobby Webster was promoted to general manager, Dan Tolzman to assistant GM/vice president, player personnel and Keith Boyarsky to VP basketball strategy & research.
“Masai Ujiri will continue to oversee basketball operations as president of the club.”
That line was the key one in a release sent by the club, since early Wednesday morning the news had dropped that the New York Knicks and Phil Jackson were parting ways after a disastrous fling together. Further reports from ESPN had beleaguered Knicks owner James Dolan restarting his pursuit of Ujiri, who he has long been a fan of.
That sent the Raptors’ fanbase into panic-mode
However, Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment likely headed this scenario off at the path about a year ago, when Ujiri was given a long-term extension and a significant raise. That deal still has four years remaining and Ujiri has been granted total autonomy in Toronto and has overseen the greatest run of success in franchise history. The organization has also contributed millions of dollars to his Giants of Africa program and continues to do so.
Still, we can’t know for sure until Ujiri shuts the talk down, and he wasn’t prepared to do that on Wednesday when Webster was introduced.
“I know it’s been a crazy day in the NBA. Today’s all about Bobby Webster, and he deserves it. And also Dan Tolzman and Keith Boyarsky, who we promoted,” Ujiri said.
“It’s their day. Everything we’ve done in this organization and going forward, they have contributed in every way that they could and have been a big part of it.”
Not long after that, Ujiri left the room and left Webster to get used to life in the spotlight.
But Webster knew the day had been hijacked by this commotion anyway and he isn’t the type to care, much like Ujiri and former GM Jeff Weltman.
Ujiri had fleeced the Knicks in a pair of deals (Carmelo Anthony and Andrea Bargnani), first while helming the Denver Nuggets, and then just after he returned to the Raptors (where he had previously served as assistant GM under Bryan Colangelo). That scared Dolan off of a potential Kyle Lowry deal that would, in hindsight, have been a coup for the Knicks.
After the Jackson disaster, the Knicks clearly want to generate positive headlines for once and with Tim Leiweke now getting involved with the team, it was only natural that Ujiri’s name would come up again. Leiweke brought Ujiri to Toronto when he was in charge of MLSE in one of his signature moves and is a huge fan.
“They should know the future of the Raptors is ultimately about Masai and they should feel extremely comfortable,” Leiweke had told Postmedia shortly before he left the organization when asked how fans should feel about his leaving a basketball side he had been a strong supporter of.
“My job was to find a good leader, and I did. I will leave behind that great leader and he’s the guy who will take them to the next heights.”
At the time, Ujiri had admitted that it was tough to see Leiweke go.
“It was phenomenal. It was great. We had ways of getting through everything, whether it was good or bad,” Ujiri said
“That’s what I’m going to miss is the chemistry and the working environment that he created here.”
Still, don’t expect a reunion in New York. MLSE knows what it has in Ujiri and has done its part to all but ensure he stays put — At least they hope. Sources say MLSE would fight hard to ensure substantial compensation should it come to that.
Ujiri, Webster and Weltman were given elevated job titles and raises in May of 2016 in an attempt to make poaching any of them harder. Weltman did end up leaving to become president in Orlando a month ago, but that was a promotion to head of basketball operations. Ujiri already has the highest title possible here and, if forced into a corner, MLSE would surely demand significant compensation from the Knicks.
Webster is regarded as a salary cap guru. He previously worked for the NBA and helped write the previous collective bargaining agreement (a new one goes into effect on July 1).
Tolzman has been the scouting lead, amongst other responsibilities, and was the GM of Raptors 905, D-League champions in Year 2 of existence.
Boyarsky has been the team’s director of analytics for several years after first coming aboard in 2009 as a consultant with Alex Rucker, who now leads Colangelo’s analytics team with the Philadelphia 76ers.
 
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My only question with MJ is why hasn't he landed a job since GS, he's interviewed and come up with nothing. I'm not for hiring him just because he was a Knick.

Not sure, really? But I've heard those players move MJ and credit him for their development.

I don't want MJ bc he was a NYK but more so bc he laid the groundwork that turned GSW into a dynasty.

What could MJ do for Ntikilina and Holiday and Dotson?

Anyway, its more thinking aloud and spit-firing ideas. Not like Griff is Jerry West.
 
I stand corrected:

The Knicks are reportedly "confident" that Raptors president Masai Ujiri will leave his current job to fill the void left by Phil Jackson's exit.

Ujiri signed a five-year deal with Toronto last season, and on Wednesday he tapped Bobby Webster as the team's new GM, so it would take a compelling offer to pry him away. After his promotion on Wednesday, Webster said, "[N]ot only the front office, the coaches, the travel staff, you know, we believe in Masai and Masai believes in us. So we?ll keep it going."

Source: Toronto Star Jun 28 - 10:57 PM
 
Decision time for Raptors? Ujiri and MLSE: Arthur

With help from former MLSE boss Tim Leiweke, no less, the Knicks ramp up recruiting of Raptors boss Masai Ujiri to replace outgoing Zen master Phil Jackson. The ball?s in Ujiri?s court.

Until Masai Ujiri decides he is leaving, he is not leaving. Simple. The president of the Toronto Raptors is in the first year of a five-year contract, and he promoted 32-year-old Bobby Webster to general manager on Wednesday, and as Webster said, ?not only the front office, the coaches, the travel staff, you know, we believe in Masai and Masai believes in us. So we?ll keep it going.?

But until Masai Ujiri says he is staying the door isn?t closed, and he hasn?t said he?s staying. That?s not an accident. The New York Knicks fired team president Phil Jackson Wednesday after three years of pure uncut bumbling comedy, and the Knicks are coming for Masai. Tim Leiweke, the former president and CEO of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, is an adviser, which means he is the recruiter. The idea of this overture, as first reported by Frank Isola of the New York Daily News in 2016, has quietly been in the works for over a year.

And for the first time since he assumed control of the Raptors, Ujiri?s future is actually a question. The organization is quietly projecting confidence that Ujiri won?t leave, but that?s either overconfidence or naivet?. Last year, Brooklyn inquired through intermediary parties about Ujiri, but it never reached any formal stages, bottomless resources be damned. A second team called last year and was politely rebuffed. Those weren?t serious.

This is. Yes, the Knicks are a mess, in perpetuity. The Jackson era in New York mashed as many hilarious buttons as possible, culminating with multiple reports that the hall of fame coach fell asleep during a draft workout. Seinfeld hasn?t been on the air since 1998, but Jackson with the Knicks was like watching George Costanza, the sitcom?s hapless idiot, trying to get fired from the Yankees.

Still, Phil got rich, and the final two years of his five-year, $60-million U.S. deal were guaranteed in April of this year. Ah, Zen.

All that just makes the Knicks more desperate for a new saviour, and league sources indicate the Knicks are already confident Ujiri is coming to New York. When Ujiri came to Toronto from Denver he was lured by the city, the geography ? it is easier to get home every summer to Africa, where Ujiri pours his soul every summer into his Giants of Africa charity ? the resources, and the challenge of fixing a franchise that had never been fixed.

Any of that sound familiar? New York has stubbornly buried a lot of good basketball men, made them laughingstocks. But Ujiri loves a challenge.

Yes, MLSE treats Ujiri well. The Raptors signed him to the contract extension in September of 2016, and elevated him to president of basketball operations. The belief is that he is paid top-five money among NBA team executives. The organization supports his work with Giants of Africa, which is as dear to his heart as anything. He has autonomy, and political capital.

But this is serious, and the organization may need to decide how far it is willing to go to keep a star executive. Ujiri hasn?t been perfect. The core of his winning teams ? Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan, coach Dwane Casey ? were here when he arrived. The team was trying to shed the onerous contracts of Jonas Valanciunas and DeMarre Carroll at the draft last week. The prospect of re-signing the 31-year-old Lowry or starting a longer rebuild ? or retool ? is staring the organization in the face, and the options aren?t great.

Ujiri is still considered one of the few executives in the NBA with real aura, star power and deep connections, and that?s why the Knicks will chase him. Where MLSE would go to replace him is an open question, too. Before you dismiss them as the stumbling, bumbling Knicks, remember: Leiweke is the man who built MLSE?s current competitive structure: its rising hockey team, its stellar soccer team, the Raptors. He knows the owners, knows Ujiri and what pushes his buttons. Ujiri loved working for him. Leiweke pried Ujiri out of Denver in the first place, and as one MLSE official put it, ?don?t forget that (Leiweke) wants to stick it to these guys.?

The idea of New York is a powerful one, as is the idea of bigger dollars when you have a charitable organization that can use every penny. As well, the NBA would love to see the Knicks fixed: commissioner Adam Silver and Ujiri are on excellent terms, despite past wrist-slapping fines, and you can bet the league is interested in this.

Now, Ujiri wouldn?t be working for Leiweke in New York: he would be working for James Dolan, in his hereditary mad idiot kingdom. The culture at Madison Square Garden has been toxic for a long time. Ujiri knows. After all, he?s the one who unloaded Carmelo Anthony there, and who fleeced them so badly on the Andrea Bargnani trade that Dolan nixed a Lowry trade in 2014. Funny how things work out.

But if Ujiri decides that he can handle Dolan, dig out that culture and fix the Knicks ... well, that might be insane hubris, but it?s possible. It wouldn?t be the end of the Raptors, but it would leave a 32-year-old rookie GM in charge, and in all likelihood a dive into a rebuild, with franchise-changing decisions everywhere.

Free agency opens July 1. As of Wednesday evening sources indicated the request had not been made, but that can change with a phone call. Despite the contract, sources indicate Ujiri can leave if he wants to leave. It?s really up to him.

So Ujiri has a decision to make, and the tall foreheads at Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment do, too. They could try to cut this off by asking Ujiri what else it would take to end all speculation, and delivering it. They can hope he loves it here and distrusts Dolan enough to stay. That is all possible.

Or they can find out what Masai Ujiri is worth to the Toronto Raptors, after he leaves.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/rapt...n-time-for-raptors-ujiri-and-mlse-arthur.html
 
I stand corrected:

The Knicks are reportedly "confident" that Raptors president Masai Ujiri will leave his current job to fill the void left by Phil Jackson's exit.

Ujiri signed a five-year deal with Toronto last season, and on Wednesday he tapped Bobby Webster as the team's new GM, so it would take a compelling offer to pry him away. After his promotion on Wednesday, Webster said, "[N]ot only the front office, the coaches, the travel staff, you know, we believe in Masai and Masai believes in us. So we’ll keep it going."

Source: Toronto Star Jun 28 - 10:57 PM
I thinks the Knicks are being overconfident here unless Ujiri has some kind of out clause in his contract. It's going to take at least one 1st rounder and more than what they paid Phil to get him here, the money the Knicks won't mind paying but to lose a 1st round pick probably in the lottery next year would be a blow to a rebuilding team like the Knicks. Anyway I think you'll hear clarification from Ujiri whether he's got any interest or not because the Knicks need to move on and Toronto needs to start negotiations If Ujiri wants to come to NY. I personally wouldn't give up a pick to bring him here.
 

Ramona Shelburne reports
that the Knicks are unlikely to rush hiring a replacement for Jackson. League sources told her it will be difficult to hire Ujiri away from the Raptors because of the Knicks' reluctance to part with draft considerations.


If TOR is willing to take a 2020 and beyond first round pick it might be worth chasing Ujiri but not an unprotected first next year which may be in the lottery, Knicks have been unwilling to trade picks for guys that lace up sneakers that play the game, absolutely silly to change that now for an exec even if it is Ujiri.
 
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I wouldn't take a front office job with any NBA franchise stupid enough to trade a valuable future 1st round pick to get me.
 
i really don't like the idea of giving up future 1st rounders for anyone, especially not management. this guy ujiri seems like he could be good for us, but good enough to give up future 1st rounders? nah, i think i'd pass.
 
It would be "difficult" for the Knicks to hire Masai Ujiri, sources told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.
Less than 24 hours after a report that the Knicks were reportedly "confident" about hiring Ujiri, Shelburne pumps the brakes on that idea. Realistically, the Knicks can't afford to give dilute their asset base any further, and that makes hiring Ujiri basically a pipe dream. Shelburne also mentions OKC's Sam Presti and ex-Cavs GM David Griffin as additional names of interest on New York's radar.
Related: Cavaliers, Knicks, Thunder
Source: ESPN Jun 29 - 12:47 PM
 
Our owner Dolan is so SLOW! It does not take a rocket scientist to know the Knicks new coach n GM need to be relatively aware of New York Knicks situation having experience with the organization in the past.
Hire Mark Jackson as GM/Head coach ASAP !!!
 
Rose definitely has a shot to land there, although I'll go Lowry is he spurns Raptors...meanwhile



Strong rumor, Teague could be a front runner in Scrubio's absence.
 
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Rose definitely has a shot to land there, although I'll go Lowry is he spurns Raptors...meanwhile



Strong rumor, Teague could be a front runner in Scrubio's absence.
If I were Thibs, I'd get JT over DRose. The move to trade Rubio after trading Dunn tells you Thibs has a plan for someone, Tyus Jones is the only PG left.
 
If I were Thibs, I'd get JT over DRose. The move to trade Rubio after trading Dunn tells you Thibs has a plan for someone, Tyus Jones is the only PG left.

We're cold on Jeff Teague too, which is good to hear. Looks like a PJ Tucker and Darren Collison type of offseason
 
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More fire to the DRose to Twolves rumors or is it welcome to the Twin Cities George Hill. Bulls waived Rondo today also.
The trade would make no sense if the plan is to sign Rose. Yes, Rose is a former MVP, but Rose wouldn't provide three point shooting that they supposedly want and Rose isn't the passer Rubio is. I think this is a big mistake if they sign Rose as his replacement, even if it does work out better for them.

It has to be for somebody such as George Hill to make sense. Can they sign Rose and Hill?
 
Is there really any point to sign any PG this season other than our younger players? I want Rose to be on the team because I'm a fan, but other than that, I don't see a reason to sign anybody unless the goal is to be in the Playoffs. I'd ask what Rose wants. The team COULD use a veteran PG, just yeah.
 
Thoughts on us going for Rajon Rondo? He's a veteran PG who gets his teammates involved, and that could always be good for the development for our younger players and team chemistry. If not Rubio, I'd like to see if we could get Rondo on a two-year deal with a team option on the second if things don't work out with him as far as attitude problems or whatever. I don't know.
 
Thoughts on us going for Rajon Rondo? He's a veteran PG who gets his teammates involved, and that could always be good for the development for our younger players and team chemistry. If not Rubio, I'd like to see if we could get Rondo on a two-year deal with a team option on the second if things don't work out with him as far as attitude problems or whatever. I don't know.
Rondo never wanted to play here because of the triangle, with PJ gone it's less of an issue. I like the idea, he'll be cheaper than Hill, Holiday, Teague and DRose I would think and his last 2 contracts were short term deals so I think he's "gettable" unlike a Kyle Lowry. Rondo, CLee, Melo, KP, WHG is a competitive line-up imo.
 
Utah Jazz doesn't want to lose GH. This move is a move to make their star happy... he won't leave and turn down 50 mil... but used his leverage to ensure his team improved
 
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