The Draft of 2023:

Kiyaman

Legend
Every team around us have gotten better.
So where does this leave the Knicks??
John Collin goes to Jazz on today

Ainge is building a future winning team in Utah ....
The deal to acquire Collins, 25, brings the Jazz a versatile forward to play on a front line with All-Star Lauri Markkanen and All-Rookie center Walker Kessler. Also, Utah used the ninth pick in Thursday's NBA draft to select Taylor Hendricks, a power forward out of Central Florida. The Jazz were an offensive revelation under first-year coach Will Hardy, and Collins' arrival could help Utah return to the Western Conference playoffs next season.

I would've luv to trade Randle to the Hawks for Collins .. just to watch next season Hawks scoring trio of Trae Young & Murray & Randle fight to stay a .500 team throughout the season lol
 
You guys keep trading the wrong player. Not Randle… how about that parasite the one suck life out of the team.
Guess you saying ‘Which parasite’, lol.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
It's easy to figure out why so many Knicks fans want Randle traded ....

1) If Randle's minutes aren't cut down to 30 and below next season, then trade Randle in offseason.
The past 4 seasons Randle have played 36 to 40 minutes of SELFISH B.ball !!!
The Knicks have no ball-movement when Randle's on the court.
The Knicks did have ball-movement annd fast break baskets every time ex-player D.Rose were on the court.
The Difference is in a players team-leadership
Super Stars Jokic, Curry, Butler, and Tatum average 33 minutes of a UNSELFISH B.ball performance each night.
Big Difference between a ball-movement (Miami) team vs a No ball-movement (Cavs) team).

2) Our new PG Brunson followed (Leader) Randle's selfish performance for 35 minutes each game throughout the season.
PG Brunson season average 6 assist in 35 minute performance as a Knicks
8-18 FGA, 40% 3-ball, and 1 steal a game.
 

mafra

Legend
It took a while, but the Knicks and Pacers finalized the Obi Toppin trade on Friday afternoon. We knew the Knicks would be getting two second-round picks for their former lottery pick, but which two seconds, exactly? Here are the details:

  • Least favorable of Pacers’ and Suns’ 2028 second-round pick
  • Least favorable of Pacers’ and Wizards’ 2029 second-round pick
So not only does the return for Obi amount to a couple of second-rounders that won’t convey until the end of the decade, the Pacers will get to keep the higher second-round picks in both 2028 and 2029.

The Obi trade is clearly a salary dump… roster move. Knicks get nada for the former 8th pick, which most clearly understood at the time was a waste of a pick.


Leon Rose has now run 4 drafts… He’s traded 2 lottery picks (Obi, Duran) for minimum cap relief to sign Brunson and DVD. Didn’t even get to dump Evan F for it. He walked away from his last draft without a pick and only has TK to show for previous draft… And TK clearly will never amount to anything in the NBA, if he even makes a roster at some point. In essence, after 4 drafts Rose has added IQ, Grimes, Sims, and Deuce. Reserve players in the NBA.

Rose doesn’t speak to the media and he’s 50/50 on his free agent crap. He’s made 2
Shrewd deadline moves that boosted Knicks to playoffs in his 3 deadlines… Rose and Hart were quality.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
The Knicks 2022 off-season we were supposed to draft the 6.6 2-Way SF Jalen Williams with the 11th pick.
Plus finding away to dump Fournier & Walker contract to sign PG Brunson.
The Knicks FO traded our young athletic PF Obi Toppin for nothing. Now ..
In the 2023 off-season the Knicks have no Forwards (SF and PF) on the roster.
Randle's role on the Knicks the past 4 seasons has been a poor PG, who always walking the ball down court so all our opponents players are already set up on the defensive-end, making it hard for Knicks teammates to score inside the paint on a half-court offense.
So far in July, 2023 offseason the Knicks have eight guard players on the roster (Brunson, McBride, Quickley, Grimes, Fournier, Hart, Donte, and Barrett), small ball lineups throughout the the 2023-24 Knicks season.
 
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