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If Nash comes to New York would any of you still want Stat gone? (just wondering)
If Nash comes to New York would any of you still want Stat gone? (just wondering)
no body...is taking amar'e n his 20m non-insurable contract.. he is here to stay, so woodson or the next coach better figure out how to best use him/melo/chandler... ladies and gentlemen... your ny knicks for the next 3 years...
Prokhorov would do it in a heart beat with D Wiliam for Stat/Lin.Interesting. Trade STAT and Lin as a package deal you say?
I can see the Nets giving us Deron Williams in a sign and trade with for STAT and Lin. Maybe we can snatch up a guy like Green or Stevenson as well. FWIW, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat.
Prokhorov would do it in a heart beat with D Wiliam for Stat/Lin.
When Melo wasn't a fit for D'Antoni's system, fans said that D shouldn't force him to fit his system but create a play for him. Why can't Woody create a system that will work best for what players we have? Feed and maximize on their strengths while minimizing the effects of their weaknesses. That's what he is being paid for. A good coach knows the strengths and weaknesses of his team and adjust accordingly. Isn't he flexible enough?
Don't get me wrong, I like Lin as well and think that he will have a bright future in the NBA. At the same time, I'd like us to stop making trades and just develop the current roster that we have. But for us to get a proven superstar point guard in CP3 or Dwill in exchange for a package of STAT's bad contract and Lin is an opportunity to build a better team that the Knicks should not pass off on, IMO.
If Nash comes to New York would any of you still want Stat gone? (just wondering)
:agreed:I Hope, all this movement were hoping for, doesn't happen.I want this team to build some chemistry, before we try going in a different direction.People on this board, are so impatient, so quick to blow up teams, without giving it a fair chance.MDA got 4 years to torture KNICK fans, but STAT and MELO can't get 1 year, to see if they can figure it out?
I understand what your saying, but STATS trade value is in the toilet anyway, i just don't want to give him away, only to see him return to form, and put up great numbers somewhere else.His trade value can only go up, so i say wait it out(at least until the trade deadline), to see if he can find his way.If he can, we're not gonna get anymore no for him, than if we waited until the trade deadline.No because we run the risk of further depreciation of any tradable assets.
This isn't about who works together and who doesn't because that's relative to the team we face. This is about building the best team to beat the Heat.
In order to highlight our bst scorer while being able to play defense (which is what it will take) we have to re-evaluate our approach. We did it with D'Antoni and now we need to do it with Woodson.
We need to eliminate the questions. Stat proved he was a question with his BACK injuries. That solidified his worth when coupled with his lack of defense which is apparent on film.
STAT is the very definiton of OVERRATED. And he's my man, but even I can see that without a distributor and with a PF who makes $20mil nd can't be relied upon to a) lock-down, or b) to be healthy (as he was injured during both playoff runs) we are doomed.
Now IF you want to take a risk that Lin will be Nash/Kidd/Parker light that's a stretch. His defense was suspect, his numbers inflated as we all agree MDA's approach does, and his meniscus torn partly due to "sefl-induced flopping", partly due to poor conditioning, and add the many off-court distractions he will have... is a big risk.
Hoping that STAT will be healthy one of these playoffs is another risk. Hoping he will learn to lock-down, is almost insane.
STAT is a D'Antoni player. A stretch four who plays minimal defense. Lin can tbe relied upon versus top comp. If we are to go traditional then we MUST find a way.
I understand what your saying, but STATS trade value is in the toilet anyway, i just don't want to give him away, only to see him return to form, and put up great numbers somewhere else.His trade value can only go up, so i say wait it out(at least until the trade deadline), to see if he can find his way.If he can, we're not gonna get anymore no for him, than if we waited until the trade deadline.
Yes but then we run the risk of
1. Having to gel on the fly as we have these past few years
2. STAT being injured yet again
Its that back thing. In my experience without surgery bulging discs flare up and debilitate, possibly become herniated. That back injury he had is a result o the initial ones more likely occuring prior to him being here.
IF he returns to form that WILL NOT include to be a defensive stalwart in any form, only as a face-up scorere. I wanted a BIG before a PG. We see what a big can/could do for us.
Now, we need a facilitator, especially because we have a scorer and defensive presence in the paint. When we look at the possible PF's who could help, we see much much more that are viable than PG's.
IF Lin returns he too won't be as a defensive guard. With shump out, we have no facilitator nor perimeter defender. Since D'Antoni had a shot at getting his players, its only fair to do so wih Woody. That means trading STAT. And Lin, Fields, TD are the only expendable parts to trade and this must be done prior to camp imo.
Knicks keep Lin unless they get Nash, that's my point of view. They need to go all in on the current situation. I like Lin but let's be honest - this team needs to win NOW and if it does not win now it will not win when Amar'e and Melo are in their mid-30's.
Amar'e and Melo would not win a championship if they stayed in their mid-20s for the rest of their lives.
You don't move Lin if you get Nash, you let Nash teach Lin. It's not one or the other with these two. Nash would be an awesome back-up to Lin.
What r u smoking? Nash would never come here to be a backup. Saying that is homerism at its highest.