u getting stats off 20 games or so....thats really not fair at all for nate...nobody was saying shyt when he was playing like one of the best players in da second half last season
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u getting stats off 20 games or so....thats really not fair at all for nate...nobody was saying shyt when he was playing like one of the best players in da second half last season
TunerAddict
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Actually if you go back to last seasons game threads I was still shitting on Nate even when he was putting up like 20ppg...
StreetDreams21
I got Soul
We should trade Nate for Tyrus Thomas...
Where do these new posters come from? It seems like they're all the same person.
Where do these new posters come from? It seems like they're all the same person.
knickzrulezH20
Sexy Stud
hardfoul is probably abcd in denial. his man-love for gaybury was exposed, and now that gaybury is off eating vaseline he has to hide under a new name.
Conspiracy theories and FACTS
My so-call conspiracy theories is FACTS.
What was our record (4-15) when Walsh announced the multiple trade with Chicago?
Knick Politics and PR behavior is something I learned decades ago when Headcoach Willis Reed one year service built us into a 50 win team the next season.
In 1999 when Dolan fired G.M. Ernie Grunfield, Dolan was at the Garden for the next 10 games, and the Knicks win streak got them the 8th slot in the playoffs, where the Knicks went all the way to the Finals to save coach JVG job.
The last longest winning streak the Knicks had (6 wins), Dolan was present in the Garden of each of those wins, untill he watch coach Larry Brown call 2nd season player Trevor Ariza Delusional after the 6th game. The 7th game was in Toronto and the Knicks let the bum Rapters blow them out by 20 something points.
Pat....be straight foward and write u dont like me bashing Walsh and Dantoni in all my threads (win or lose). Dont jump on a bandwagon
I forever get on Turner case for bashing one of my favorite players Nate.
My so-call conspiracy theories is FACTS.
What was our record (4-15) when Walsh announced the multiple trade with Chicago?
Knick Politics and PR behavior is something I learned decades ago when Headcoach Willis Reed one year service built us into a 50 win team the next season.
In 1999 when Dolan fired G.M. Ernie Grunfield, Dolan was at the Garden for the next 10 games, and the Knicks win streak got them the 8th slot in the playoffs, where the Knicks went all the way to the Finals to save coach JVG job.
The last longest winning streak the Knicks had (6 wins), Dolan was present in the Garden of each of those wins, untill he watch coach Larry Brown call 2nd season player Trevor Ariza Delusional after the 6th game. The 7th game was in Toronto and the Knicks let the bum Rapters blow them out by 20 something points.
Pat....be straight foward and write u dont like me bashing Walsh and Dantoni in all my threads (win or lose). Dont jump on a bandwagon
I forever get on Turner case for bashing one of my favorite players Nate.
pat
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Although I have to say that your bashing is somewhat annoying, as we all know your opinion and there is no need to shove it down our throats on every threat, that is not the problem.
It is the way you are trying to underline your arguments. Your whole style suggests that you know Donnie, D'Antoni and all of the players. It seems like you are the ultimate insider as far as NYK coaching-, management- and marketing decisions are concerned. Yet, you fail to provide any proof of your claims. It is like those articles in basketball magazines where it says "an anonymous source close to the Knicks reports that ...". Every time I read something like this I know the author just made it up.
Tell me your source and I will eat my words, up to then your incoherent rants just get on my nerves.
Is that straight enough?
Well said! Feel the same way.
TunerAddict
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We don't have a single player playing 40 a game...
Our highest guy is David Lee who is just over 34.
Overall our minutes are actually very balanced in this rotation.
Our highest guy is David Lee who is just over 34.
Overall our minutes are actually very balanced in this rotation.
smokes
Huge Member
Actually I believe Lee has played 40 in every game since we went to this rotation. I know that's not the point you're trying to make but just a minor correction.
TunerAddict
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I don't doubt that, but that was more of a 7 guys rotation with like Tony D sprinkled in. I think with Curry being showcased Lee will get that relief.
BlackH20
Benchwarmer
You still pretty sure?
I am Nate, that's beautiful, I wish I was, I am 6 foot 6 and never dunked a ball.
I could be Nate's Dad, I played Walt when he played college ball at SIU Carbondale. Knicks fan ever since. Duhon should never had been started 50 games at 35 minutes plus. That is the point, so you look at your bench, but this was never done. D'Antoni has exposed a side never seen and should never have been seen with players that were not going to be here anyway. Why get in the press over power struggles and high school benchings? Most announcers on other teams questioned the benchings, so did Walt on Hughes. Not an uniformed fan, watched or attended every Knicks game. Played Division 1 ball, seven knee operations to show it. Walt is the best player I ever shared a court with (a few minutes). Also, why have your brother, who's only experience is high school coaching, coaching pro players? I and probably other posters have more coaching experience.
No respect from 10-12 year veterans, taking lessons from a high school coach in practice.
It's not that Nate is better, if you read my post it will say Nate can score 25, but the guy he is defending will get 27. Fans don't care about defense, but one player, from my growing up area, St. Louis U, but now retired to Colorado. Larry Hughes, also from SLU is a defensive player first. Remember, thats why Walsh said he grabbed him? Then why don't you use him when he showed he still has it? You won games with him, the most games with him in the line up, not points, ball management, court vision, 8 assist in a quarter and DEFENSE. It is the head games by making players like Nate and Hughes ride the pine for a month and making the Knicks less attractive for the three other role players we need if, and it's a big if, you sign two big names. Lebron is good friends with Hughes, won't be here. Not Duhon's fault, he did not put himself in the line-up. But you don't mess with Marbury, Curry, DNP after loosing 40 lbs, Robinson, DNP a month, Hughes, best defender and clock and game point guard on the Knicks bench this year, and Harrington, who doesn't start as part as a head game, but is your leading scorer and leading 6th man scorer in the league (so you give away 3-6 points every first quarter). These guys share the floor with over 30 plus years of combined NBA experience. They talk everynight, text, and have tight friends on many teams. Let me tell you, the Steve Nash ride that D'Antoni got, is over. The highest paid coach in NBA history, is gone in 24 months. You don't mess up a rebuilding year, you don't screw up a first round draft pick that does not participate in combines (advice from agent, knows that other draft picks will blow him away). Any first round pick should have contributed heavy minutes this year on the Kicks. Plus, your best player, David Lee, also, St. Louis, Chaminade, Kevin Sampson coached was shown, the Knicks didn't think much of him with a one year. Now, they can't afford him, if they are super lucky with two top tier players. You need three tier two players, you are not going to get them with what the coach and gm did these last two years. You needed to sell NEW YORK and the KNICKS this year, instead, he got in the press for all the wrong reasons, pissing off half the bench.
Sorry, but let's make it clear, not Nate. Agree with you though! Don't be too rude to another fan, for that's all we all just are.
I am Nate, that's beautiful, I wish I was, I am 6 foot 6 and never dunked a ball.
I could be Nate's Dad, I played Walt when he played college ball at SIU Carbondale. Knicks fan ever since. Duhon should never had been started 50 games at 35 minutes plus. That is the point, so you look at your bench, but this was never done. D'Antoni has exposed a side never seen and should never have been seen with players that were not going to be here anyway. Why get in the press over power struggles and high school benchings? Most announcers on other teams questioned the benchings, so did Walt on Hughes. Not an uniformed fan, watched or attended every Knicks game. Played Division 1 ball, seven knee operations to show it. Walt is the best player I ever shared a court with (a few minutes). Also, why have your brother, who's only experience is high school coaching, coaching pro players? I and probably other posters have more coaching experience.
No respect from 10-12 year veterans, taking lessons from a high school coach in practice.
It's not that Nate is better, if you read my post it will say Nate can score 25, but the guy he is defending will get 27. Fans don't care about defense, but one player, from my growing up area, St. Louis U, but now retired to Colorado. Larry Hughes, also from SLU is a defensive player first. Remember, thats why Walsh said he grabbed him? Then why don't you use him when he showed he still has it? You won games with him, the most games with him in the line up, not points, ball management, court vision, 8 assist in a quarter and DEFENSE. It is the head games by making players like Nate and Hughes ride the pine for a month and making the Knicks less attractive for the three other role players we need if, and it's a big if, you sign two big names. Lebron is good friends with Hughes, won't be here. Not Duhon's fault, he did not put himself in the line-up. But you don't mess with Marbury, Curry, DNP after loosing 40 lbs, Robinson, DNP a month, Hughes, best defender and clock and game point guard on the Knicks bench this year, and Harrington, who doesn't start as part as a head game, but is your leading scorer and leading 6th man scorer in the league (so you give away 3-6 points every first quarter). These guys share the floor with over 30 plus years of combined NBA experience. They talk everynight, text, and have tight friends on many teams. Let me tell you, the Steve Nash ride that D'Antoni got, is over. The highest paid coach in NBA history, is gone in 24 months. You don't mess up a rebuilding year, you don't screw up a first round draft pick that does not participate in combines (advice from agent, knows that other draft picks will blow him away). Any first round pick should have contributed heavy minutes this year on the Kicks. Plus, your best player, David Lee, also, St. Louis, Chaminade, Kevin Sampson coached was shown, the Knicks didn't think much of him with a one year. Now, they can't afford him, if they are super lucky with two top tier players. You need three tier two players, you are not going to get them with what the coach and gm did these last two years. You needed to sell NEW YORK and the KNICKS this year, instead, he got in the press for all the wrong reasons, pissing off half the bench.
Sorry, but let's make it clear, not Nate. Agree with you though! Don't be too rude to another fan, for that's all we all just are.