and1... I think in all sports, u can't look at early results... its a long season... some of the better teams (wizards/etc) got off to a $hitty start, but the cream started to rise to the top... on the other hand, u have the hawks who were pretenders at the start.... as we were.. my point is (or should have been), this team reminds me of the team 10years ago, where he went out and got lots of re-treads... eddie curry in the middle, we had starbury, lets get stevie francis, we need a backup for curry, lets get Jerome james, jared Jefferies, quentin Richardson, malik rose.... holy $hit... I guess phil was stoned out to see how that turned out